Quite the picture:
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Posted on 04/05/2014 5:57:23 AM PDT by Gamecock
You mean like the straw-man, alleged (technically hearsay) quotes from *some* Protestant, you gave as intro to the giganto copy/past list you brought in #380, which as you then further say;
which strongly suggests that scarcely any live up to, including yourself?
A few items have already been highlighted for you, with the question posed by Elsie -- "do you really want to go there?" --with those items showing themselves to be quite likely needing some further attention on your own part --- just going by what we have all been witnessing (if paying close enough attention) on just as seen acted out (by yourself) on FR alone.
I'm not perfect --- but I do rely upon the Lord, His own Spirit within me, to show me where it is that I'm sinning -- and for Him to convict me of that. Occasionally,He can use people too, to bring things to my attention.
I did notice on possible error (there could be more) in my own previous communication with you --- for you seemed to include the part about your wife and daughters "being slighted" was just a joke you included? Like -- it was a joke all along, just a little funny comic relief amid the more serious? If so -- hey, I do the same sort of thing, mixing the two, with it being more difficult to convey clues as to "this is humor" then a "this is not" in textual fashion, than in person. So-- sorry I missed it (if I did from the beginning).
Even then, turning back to how we may realize our own being forgiven, even by God, I am forgiven already.
A blanket pardon. Yet if the conscience not examined, and the conviction not come (conviction -- not to be confused with condemnation -- this is a very important difference) then I would hardly be able, by effort of my own conscience examining itself, to find the truth of the matter as to those things found even within my own heart, the human heart being wicked beyond all things -- who can know it? ---as it is written Jeremiah 17:9
The point is that if one believes in fairy tales, other than the true scriptures that God wrote to us, the odds are very high that they will be believing the false Christ that is sent here first claiming to be Christ.
And the hard part is understanding that God is in control of that.
Each person decides for themselves whether they believe in fact or fiction. Don't make it sound like they don't have control over themselves in what to believe.
Quite the picture:
I teach high school English. Sentences aren’t “defined.” Sentences, within the context of an entire work, are interpreted. Interpretations take into account many aspects; i.e., author background, historical circumstances, psychology, etc. Perhaps that’s where you’re having problems. You should have gone to Catholic school, because the nuns would have taught those literary concepts better than your teachers apparently taught them. The phrase you posted is not a prayer. Yes, it does state Mary twice (you can count!), but stating somebody’s name does not a prayer make. In fact, I’ve said two prayers for you today and didn’t mention Mary once!
You are making good progress! If I may so.
If I may say so. Brain works, fingers don’t.
Your Bible must come with a condescension insert. The Bibles in the Baptist church I grew up in came with those. I never actually saw the inserts, but they must have been there. The parishioners always used them when they saw somebody responsibly sipping an alcoholic beverage or witnessed a married man and a married woman (not to each other) engaging in innocent, friendly conversation.
Just forget all of that and study the bible. No PC stuff or feel sorry for me junk. Eternity awaits you, if you can cut it.
Copyists probably not, and I did not mention them. I think my post is sufficiently clear as it is written. If you have a serious question I'll be glad to answer.
Moreover, when her post was apparently misunderstood, she clarified:
The Vulgate was Latin translated by St. Jerome
Where does the [Roman] Catholic church teach that Gregory "wrote as the Holy Spirit dictated to him"?
Nowhere: I was pointing out the detail of the image I posted. Art has its own language and is there to educate, in this case, about the inspired nature of Pope Gregory's work. St. Gregory the Great is a doctor of the Church and like any definitive teaching of the Church it is inspired without, of course, being canonical scripture.
annalex (yet another "internet babbler"?)
I post, -- on Religion Forum that is, -- the teaching of the Catholic Church as I understand it, and generally, I do. If I post something that does not conform with the Catholic teaching, I ask fellow Catholics to point my error and I will stand corrected. That is the difference between Protestants posting their thoughts and ideas, typically quite heretical and without authority other than inside their own heads.
And kittehs ain’t any easier! ;o)
Hi Cephas,
you may not care what this Catholic thinks or what a Catholic Saint wrote about the very subject you brought up.
My wife and I try hard to be faithful Catholics and work hard at it and have a good understanding of the consequences.
We sometimes chuckle when we hear protestants and other Catholics complain about how tough their faith is when they have only one or two children (”be fruitful and multiply”) believe in a “prosperity theology” (”passing through the eye of a needle”) and on the Lord’s Day go somewhere “to fellowship” (don’t you love it when they make a verb out of a noun?)
Why have tried very hard for years and have grown much closer to the Lord and then we read this: “The Little Number of Those Who Are Saved” by St. Leonard of Port Maurice the full text is here: http://www.olrl.org/snt_docs/fewness.shtml
It was like having a bucket of ice water thrown in our faces. The following few quotes from the beginning of the sermon are just a warmup:
“Did all those who followed Christ follow Him even unto glory?....The point of this instruction is to decide whether the number of Christians who are saved is greater or less than the number of Christians who are damned; it will, I hope, produce in you a salutary fear of the judgments of God.”
“Brothers, because of the love I have for you, I wish I were able to reassure you with the prospect of eternal happiness by saying to each of you: You are certain to go to paradise; the greater number of Christians is saved, so you also will be saved. But how can I give you this sweet assurance if you revolt against God’s decrees as though you were your own worst enemies? I observe in God a sincere desire to save you, but I find in you a decided inclination to be damned. So what will I be doing today if I speak clearly? I will be displeasing to you. But if I do not speak, I will be displeasing to God.”
“....You will hear Saint Gregory saying clearly, “Many attain to faith, but few to the heavenly kingdom.” Saint Anselm declares, “There are few who are saved.” Saint Augustine states even more clearly, “Therefore, few are saved in comparison to those who are damned.” The most terrifying, however, is Saint Jerome. At the end of his life, in the presence of his disciples, he spoke these dreadful words: “Out of one hundred thousand people whose lives have always been bad, you will find barely one who is worthy of indulgence.”
“....Look in to the Old and New Testaments, and you will find a multitude of figures, symbols and words that clearly point out this truth: very few are saved. In the time of Noah, the entire human race was submerged by the Deluge, and only eight people were saved in the Ark. Saint Peter says, “This ark was the figure of the Church,” while Saint Augustine adds, “And these eight people who were saved signify that very few Christians are saved, because there are very few who sincerely renounce the world, and those who renounce it only in words do not belong to the mystery represented by that ark.” The Bible also tells us that only two Hebrews out of two million entered the Promised Land after going out of Egypt, and that only four escaped the fire of Sodom and the other burning cities that perished with it. All of this means that the number of the damned who will be cast into fire like straw is far greater than that of the saved, whom the heavenly Father will one day gather into His barns like precious wheat.”
I leave the rest to those interested, however a cautionary note, upon reading it you will have a very good idea where you will end up if you do not change RIGHT NOW.
So likely Peter maybe 1 in 100 will take your admonishment seriously - for just who does PeterPrinciple think he is?
Even better maybe a few more will be inspired to read St Leonard’s sermon - and then again maybe not. For what could any protestant learn from a some very old very dead saint?
Ad Majoram Dei Gloriam
I had a wild one bite me Saturday.
He didn’t cotton to being picked up, as his mama wasn’t around.
Got downright feisty with me; the little furball!
I've noticed for all the wordiness in this reply, you've finally managed to say what the sentence ISN'T; but not what it is.
Karl...
...it really DOES make you feel better!
I 'hear' the Bible saying...
1 John 5:9-13
9 If we receive the witness of men, the witness of God is greater; for this is the witness of God which He has testified of His Son. 10 He who believes in the Son of God has the witness in himself; he who does not believe God has made Him a liar, because he has not believed the testimony that God has given of His Son. 11 And this is the testimony: that God has given us eternal life, and this life is in His Son. 12 He who has the Son has life; he who does not have the Son of God does not have life. 13 These things I have written to you who believe in the name of the Son of God, that you may know that you have eternal life, and that you may continue to believe in the name of the Son of God.
I hope your own strength never fails you...
thank you!
AMDG
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