Surpassing Sola Scriptura

Answering Protestants ^ | 31 March 2014 | Matthew Olson

[BipolarBob]

"In who's opinion???"

Mine for one. And one + God is always a majority.

[philly-d-kidder]

Mama Southern Baptist Believed in Abortion in 1970’s Do you believe in Abortion?

Jesus Said that the Catholic Church would prevail against the gates of hell until the end of Time... are you saying Christ was wrong?

The Protestants removed 7 Books from the Old Testament 15 Centuries Later.. isn’t that wrong?

[Salvation]

Information is presented. How you take it tells us a lot about yourself, right?

“As a man thinketh, so is he.”

[LurkingSince'98]

Hi Bi..

that is simple - either you accept the teachings of the Catholic Church or you leave.

No division - love it or leave it.

AMDG

[DManA]

Spit on your brother. Is that what the Spirit is telling you to do?

I don’t know if English is your first language

[DManA]

And also with you.

[Salvation]

**We didn’t divide **

No, Luther did. Up until that time everything was Catholic.

[CynicalBear]

Please find for me the concept of the word “church” in the Greek as it is used in the English today.

[Just mythoughts]

Protestants created the division in the first place. Great quote: “Since Christ suffered for the Church and since the Church is the body of Christ, without doubt the person who divides the Church is convicted of lacerating the body of Christ.” – Council of Florence, Session 9 (23 March 1440)

You are correct ... the first Protester, Christ, gave the 'money' quote ... Luke 12:51 Suppose ye that I am come to give peace on earth? I tell you, NAY; but rather division:

The church is not suppose to be the object of worship.

[BipolarBob]

"that is simple - either you accept the teachings of the Catholic Church or you leave."

Exactly. I'm down with that. Your premise indicated that it signified some sign of superiority or infallibility. You didn't say it but implied it.

[Iscool]

The Tradition Protestants reject is the early church fathers writings in support of the Apostles writings. They travelled with Peter and John the Apostle and wrote of celebrating the TRUE Presence of Christ in the Eucharist.

Not an ounce of truth in that statement...

Excepting possibly PolyCarp, not a single one of the so-called church fathers traveled with or knew any apostles...And PolyCarp never mentioned anything about a Eucharist...Why would you make that up???

[DManA]

You judge Luther. You will be judged.

[matthewrobertolson]

1. Martin Luther was not excommunicated for exposing corruption, but for promoting many heresies. (LINK)

Also, on indulgences (from here):
The idea of a “restoration” being needed just before the “Reformation” also seems improbable. This common idea is based on the "selling" of indulgences [1, 2, 3] (Martin Luther attacks the practice multiple times in his Ninety-Five Theses), but is mostly due to a misunderstanding. Again, the Protestant understanding usually relies on the assault of characters: people like Johann Tetzel are demonized -- perhaps rightfully -- for abusing the system. But this abuse was not a doctrinal problem of the Church; rather, it was a disciplinary problem of men. Indulgences simply remove the temporal punishment due for past sin -- they are not a "Get out of Hell free" card -- and even when they were "sold," they required some sort of penance. Indulgences only have a salvatory effectiveness (remittance of time in Purgatory) if the recipient is already destined for Heaven. So, it would seem that the fuss is all about nothing.

2. Indeed, it was chronicled. See writings of the Church Fathers.

3. "The procedure for electing the pope has evolved over the history of the Church. In the early centuries, the clergy and people of Rome elected the successor, who usually had worked very closely with the previous pope." (See more.)

[Alex Murphy]

I’ve read a bit of Chesterton. What a bloviator. He has this formula to sound profound but when you think about what he says it is just trite - It is not that what the bible says is true, it is that what we say is true is the bible. Ok, Thanks G.K.

Mr. Furious: Okay, am I the only one who finds these sayings just a little bit formulaic? "If you want to push something down, you have to pull it up". "If you want to go left, you have to go right." It's...
The Sphinx: Your temper is very quick, my friend. But until you learn to master your rage...
Mr. Furious: ..."your rage will become your master"? That's what you were going to say, right? Right?
The Sphinx: Not necessarily.

[HereInTheHeartland]

Is there as reason you post articles seeking to ignite strife in the body of Christ?

[Jvette]

God Bless you, matthew, for wanting to proclaim the truth, but it is lost on many here who would rather eat glass that accept the Catholic Church.

[DManA]

Exactly. That’s what I mean.

[matthewrobertolson]

Thank you, Jvette. Dominus vobiscum! :)

[CynicalBear]

1 John 2: 27 But the anointing which ye have received of him abideth in you, and ye need not that any man teach you: but as the same anointing teacheth you of all things, and is truth, and is no lie, and even as it hath taught you, ye shall abide in him.

[DManA]

People criticize me for saying the obvious. What is obvious is that people criticize me. Uh, wait......