>>>Deuteronomy 18:1 The priests the Levites, and all the tribe of Levi, shall have no part nor inheritance with Israel: they shall eat the offerings of the LORD made by fire, and his inheritance.<<<
>>>It gets rather tedious trying to discuss scripture with you when it’s obvious you know so little about it.<<<
I was being cynical, Cynical. But I see it gave you a temporary reprieve from attempts to spiritualize a solution to how the tribe of Dan received land in Ezekiel 48, when there is no tribe of Dan mentioned among the tribes in Revelation 7, nor anywhere else in the New Testament. You can't explain it, because the prophecy of Ezekiel 47-48 was about the return from Babylon. I see you left your spiritualized interpretation for those verses out of this post. Maybe later.
I also mentioned earlier that the tribe of Levi is listed as one of the twelve in the Revelation, but not in Ezekiel. There are some substantial discrepancies that will require much spritualization to remedy. But this is why I posted the part about the Levites, the part that was so tedious you failed to see this:
"It shall be for the priests that are sanctified of the sons of Zadok; which have kept my charge, which went not astray when the children of Israel went astray, as the Levites went astray." (Eze 48:11 KJV)
Please explain how that would still be an issue 2500+ years in the future.
>>>Ezekiel 34:23 And I will set up one shepherd over them, and he shall feed them, even my servant David; he shall feed them, and he shall be their shepherd.<<<
>>>Ezekiel 34 doesn’t say that David is King. It says he is the King’s servant. And NO it can’t be Cyrus.<<<
This is that verse in context:
"Therefore will I save my flock, and they shall no more be a prey; and I will judge between cattle and cattle. And I will set up one shepherd over them, and he shall feed them, even my servant David; he shall feed them, and he shall be their shepherd. And I the Lord will be their God, and my servant David a prince among them; I the Lord have spoken it. And I will make with them a covenant of peace, and will cause the evil beasts to cease out of the land: and they shall dwell safely in the wilderness, and sleep in the woods." (Eze 34:22-25 KJV)
That passage does not say David is King, but this one does:
"And David my servant shall be king over them; and they all shall have one shepherd: they shall also walk in my judgments, and observe my statutes, and do them. And they shall dwell in the land that I have given unto Jacob my servant, wherein your fathers have dwelt; and they shall dwell therein, even they, and their children, and their children's children for ever: and my servant David shall be their prince for ever. Moreover I will make a covenant of peace with them; it shall be an everlasting covenant with them: and I will place them, and multiply them, and will set my sanctuary in the midst of them for evermore." (Eze 37:24-26 KJV)
David is mentioned in both, as a servant of the Lord, and as a King or prince; but he is also their shepherd, similar to Cyrus. But wait, there is more! David is a prince for ever; and the new covenant is labeled a "covenant of peace." Is this David the prince of peace that is referenced in Isaiah 9:6? You remember him: the "Everlasting Father?"
Earlier we were also discussing Hosea 3:4-5 where it says David would be the King.
"Afterward shall the children of Israel return, and seek the Lord their God, and David their king; and shall fear the Lord and his goodness in the latter days." (Hos 3:5 KJV)
Wasn't Hosea 3 referring to the return from Babylon? The reason I mentioned that is that passaged is because later it refers to the punishment of Judah and Ephraim; and even later, the new covenant that was mentioned in the two aforementioned Ezekiel passages.
So which is it? Is David the King and shepherd, or is Christ? And if David serves the king (who is Christ,) then why is he mentioned as a stand-alone in all those passages, across several books.
>>>I’m not going to spend time to explain it all but I will simply send you to here to begin to understand if you care to know truth. <<<
Well, I read it; and the author provided no clarification of the dispensational position, whatsoever, other than a lesson on how to spiritualize the scriptures. This is how he explains David as king:
"Jer. 30:9, “But they shall serve Jehovah their Elohim, and David their king whom I will raise up unto them”. This verse clearly states that David will be king and that Israel will serve him as well as Christ."
That chapter, Jeremiah 30, was referring primarily to the return from Babylonian captivity; for example:
"Therefore fear thou not, O my servant Jacob, saith the Lord; neither be dismayed, O Israel: for, lo, I will save thee from afar, and thy seed from the land of their captivity; and Jacob shall return, and shall be in rest, and be quiet, and none shall make him afraid. For I am with thee, saith the Lord, to save thee: though I make a full end of all nations whither I have scattered thee, yet I will not make a full end of thee: but I will correct thee in measure, and will not leave thee altogether unpunished." (Jer 30:10-11 KJV)
"Thus saith the Lord; Behold, I will bring again the captivity of Jacob's tents, and have mercy on his dwellingplaces; and the city shall be builded upon her own heap, and the palace shall remain after the manner thereof." (Jer 30:18 KJV)
Does that sound like Jerusalem today? No, that was the Lord talking about the decree to rebuild Jerusalem after the return from Babylon. David was most likely Cyrus, the servant of the Lord; but he could have been Christ. The reason he might be Christ is because of this verse found in the continuation chapter 31:
"Thus saith the Lord; A voice was heard in Ramah, lamentation, and bitter weeping; Rahel weeping for her children refused to be comforted for her children, because they were not." (Jer 31:15 KJV)
That prophecy was fulfilled in Matthew 2:18 when Herod killed all the children age two and under, in an attempt to kill the baby Jesus. And there was this:
"Behold, the days come, saith the Lord, that I will make a new covenant with the house of Israel, and with the house of Judah:" (Jer 31:31 KJV)
That new covenant: the "covenant of peace" in Ezekiel, is the new testament for which Christ shed his blood. Therefore, the continuation chapter 31 refers to the birth and death of Christ. The obvious fulfillment of the "return from captivity" would be the return from Babylon under Cyrus.
Let's dig deeper. Where does it say that David and Christ will "reign" together? No where that I am aware of. The only ones specifically named to reign with Christ are the disciples. Remember these promises?
"And Jesus said unto them, Verily I say unto you, That ye which have followed me, in the regeneration when the Son of man shall sit in the throne of his glory, ye also shall sit upon twelve thrones, judging the twelve tribes of Israel." (Mat 19:28 KJV)
"And I appoint unto you a kingdom, as my Father hath appointed unto me; That ye may eat and drink at my table in my kingdom, and sit on thrones judging the twelve tribes of Israel." (Luke 22:29-30 KJV)
How does David fit in? And do you think the disciples are not kings? Remember this guy?
"John to the seven churches which are in Asia: Grace be unto you, and peace, from him which is, and which was, and which is to come; and from the seven Spirits which are before his throne; And from Jesus Christ, who is the faithful witness, and the first begotten of the dead, and the prince of the kings of the earth. Unto him that loved us, and washed us from our sins in his own blood, And hath made us kings and priests unto God and his Father; to him be glory and dominion for ever and ever. Amen." (Rev 1:4-6 KJV)
How about these guys:
"And when he had taken the book, the four beasts and four and twenty elders fell down before the Lamb, having every one of them harps, and golden vials full of odours, which are the prayers of saints. And they sung a new song, saying, Thou art worthy to take the book, and to open the seals thereof: for thou wast slain, and hast redeemed us to God by thy blood out of every kindred, and tongue, and people, and nation; And hast made us unto our God kings and priests: and we shall reign on the earth." (Rev 5:8-10 KJV)
That makes between 28 and 36 kings, so far, depending on whether the disciples are part of the other group, or not. But there are more. Recall the first resurrection in Revelation 20:
"Blessed and holy is he that hath part in the first resurrection: on such the second death hath no power, but they shall be priests of God and of Christ, and shall reign with him a thousand years." (Rev 20:6 KJV)
Why does David get all the ink about being a future king in the old testament, and absolutely none in the new testament? Don't you think that is a bit odd?
>>>And NO it’s not “spiritualizing to believe that it’s David. Before the millennium the saved will be given new bodies and will reign with Christ. <<<
One would think that Ezekiel, Jeremiah and Hosea would at least mention some of those other people that reign with Christ, instead of merely David as King, standing alone. And one would also think that if David was selected to reign with Christ, the prophets would say, at least once, that David would reign with Christ.
>>>Like I’ve said before, take your head out of those Preterist books and sites and you may learn something of scripture truth.<<<
I am reasonably certain at this time that I will learn no truth from you.
BTW, the author of your link also wrote this:
"Let us first establish as Scriptural truth that Christ will rule in the millennium, and then we will examine those scriptures which concern David’s role during the millennial reign."
Most are aware that Christ reigns forever, which includes the so-called "millennium." But the author never establishes that Christ will physically reign on earth during the millennium. The reason he did not is because he can't. The notion that Christ will physically reign on earth was created by spiritualizing the scriptures, which is what you do on a regular basis, Cynical Bear.
Philip
Actually your total lack of understanding of scripture was obvious and glaring.
>>I also mentioned earlier that the tribe of Levi is listed as one of the twelve in the Revelation, but not in Ezekiel.<<
Once again it’s rather simple. In Revelation God is simply listing the number from each tribe that is being protected. It’s not who gets land or anything else.
>>So which is it? Is David the King and shepherd, or is Christ? And if David serves the king (who is Christ,) then why is he mentioned as a stand-alone in all those passages, across several books.<<
Actually it’s you who has to show that Christ is still considered a “servant” after His resurrection.
Ezekiel 37:24 And David my servant shall be king over them; and they all shall have one shepherd: they shall also walk in my judgments, and observe my statutes, and do them.
>>Wasn't Hosea 3 referring to the return from Babylon?<<
No.
>>So which is it? Is David the King and shepherd, or is Christ?<<
First show me where Jesus is referred to as a servant after His resurrection.
>>David was most likely Cyrus, the servant of the Lord; but he could have been Christ.<<
Spiritualize much? Or is it allegory?
>>That new covenant: the "covenant of peace" in Ezekiel, is the new testament for which Christ shed his blood.<<
What are you? Dispensational now?
Christ will rule on earth from Jerusalem and all the saints with Him.
Zechariah:14:1 Behold, the day of the Lord cometh, and thy spoil shall be divided in the midst of thee.
2 For I will gather all nations against Jerusalem to battle; and the city shall be taken, and the houses rifled, and the women ravished; and half of the city shall go forth into captivity, and the residue of the people shall not be cut off from the city.
3 Then shall the Lord go forth, and fight against those nations, as when he fought in the day of battle.
4 And his feet shall stand in that day upon the mount of Olives, which is before Jerusalem on the east, and the mount of Olives shall cleave in the midst thereof toward the east and toward the west, and there shall be a very great valley; and half of the mountain shall remove toward the north, and half of it toward the south.
5 And ye shall flee to the valley of the mountains; for the valley of the mountains shall reach unto Azal: yea, ye shall flee, like as ye fled from before the earthquake in the days of Uzziah king of Judah: and the Lord my God shall come, and all the saints with thee.
6 And it shall come to pass in that day, that the light shall not be clear, nor dark:
7 But it shall be one day which shall be known to the Lord, not day, nor night: but it shall come to pass, that at evening time it shall be light.
8 And it shall be in that day, that living waters shall go out from Jerusalem; half of them toward the former sea, and half of them toward the hinder sea: in summer and in winter shall it be.
9 And the Lord shall be king over all the earth: in that day shall there be one Lord, and his name one.
10 All the land shall be turned as a plain from Geba to Rimmon south of Jerusalem: and it shall be lifted up, and inhabited in her place, from Benjamin's gate unto the place of the first gate, unto the corner gate, and from the tower of Hananeel unto the king's winepresses.
11 And men shall dwell in it, and there shall be no more utter destruction; but Jerusalem shall be safely inhabited.
12 And this shall be the plague wherewith the Lord will smite all the people that have fought against Jerusalem; Their flesh shall consume away while they stand upon their feet, and their eyes shall consume away in their holes, and their tongue shall consume away in their mouth.
13 And it shall come to pass in that day, that a great tumult from the Lord shall be among them; and they shall lay hold every one on the hand of his neighbour, and his hand shall rise up against the hand of his neighbour.
14 And Judah also shall fight at Jerusalem; and the wealth of all the heathen round about shall be gathered together, gold, and silver, and apparel, in great abundance.
15 And so shall be the plague of the horse, of the mule, of the camel, and of the ass, and of all the beasts that shall be in these tents, as this plague.
16 And it shall come to pass, that every one that is left of all the nations which came against Jerusalem shall even go up from year to year to worship the King, the Lord of hosts, and to keep the feast of tabernacles.
17 And it shall be, that whoso will not come up of all the families of the earth unto Jerusalem to worship the King, the Lord of hosts, even upon them shall be no rain.
18 And if the family of Egypt go not up, and come not, that have no rain; there shall be the plague, wherewith the Lord will smite the heathen that come not up to keep the feast of tabernacles.
19 This shall be the punishment of Egypt, and the punishment of all nations that come not up to keep the feast of tabernacles.
20 In that day shall there be upon the bells of the horses, Holiness Unto The Lord; and the pots in the Lord's house shall be like the bowls before the altar.
21 Yea, every pot in Jerusalem and in Judah shall be holiness unto the Lord of hosts: and all they that sacrifice shall come and take of them, and seethe therein: and in that day there shall be no more the Canaanite in the house of the Lord of hosts.
With that I will leave you to your Preterist dillusions.