"The Clarion Project complains that the Presbyterian Church partnered with Islamists and those Islamists want to make the church their “Islamophobia” police. The Presbyterian Church (USA) and its Islamic interfaith partners have also made common cause when it comes to Israel. The Church almost voted in favor of divestment from Israel last summer, winning praise from the director of ISNA’s Office of Interfaith Relations, Sayyid Syeed."
The reason I am asking is because you, like the Clarion Group, did not distinguish the "church" that ordains homosexuals and women, with the traditional, reformed church that has been around for centuries. The half-hearted "USA" in parentheses, after first claiming the culprit was "the Presbyterian Church," leads me to believe this is simply another attempt to destroy the church from within by the Father of Lies.
I assume that was not your intention. Would it not be prudent to exercise caution when choosing articles from outside sources with unknown or hidden agendas? You know as well as I how useful the anti-semite smear has been to Satan in recent years. What was once a useful label has been turned into a tool of hate and destruction by Satan and his anti-christian forces.
Thanks,
Philip
The official website of the APC>br> http://www.americanpresbyterianchurch.org/?p=3079
SECOND COMING AND PRETERISM
Preterism is the heresy which teaches that all eschatological events prophesied in Scripture have been fulfilled in the siege and sacking of Jerusalem in 70 A.D. They maintain that all of Scripture, including the Book of Revelation, was written prior to that date. Now, if John wrote Revelation after 70 A.D. and the fall of Jerusalem, Preterism falls apart, is totally refuted, and absolutely found to be false.
THE DATE OF THE BOOK OF REVELATION
Now we know that Revelation was written while John was a prisoner of Rome, exiled to the prison island of Patmos. Rev 1:9, I John, who also am your brother, and companion in tribulation, and in the kingdom and patience of Jesus Christ, was in the isle that is called Patmos, for the word of God, and for the testimony of Jesus Christ.
There were only two Roman emperors who persecuted Christians on a large scale in the first century, Nero and Domitian. The other Emperors did not consider Christianity a serious threat to Rome. The first Roman persecution under Nero took place in the A.D. 60s. Nero was responsible for the deaths of both Peter and Paul in Rome in A.D. 67, Peter by crucifixion, and Paul by being beheaded.
There is no record of Nero’s banishing Christians to Patmos. It was Nero who threw Christians to the lions for the entertainment of the crowds, and who burned many at the stake along the road leading to the Coliseum merely to light the entrance.
After Nero’s death, Christians were not persecuted until the rise of Domitian to power in A. D. 81. Domitian had some Christians killed, the property of others confiscated, Scriptures and other Christian books burned, and many banished to the island of Patmos.
All early sources, both Christian and secular, place the banishment of John to Patmos during the reign of Domitian. Not one single early source places John’s banishment under the reign of Nero, as preterits claim. All modern attempts to date Revelation during Nero’s reign rely exclusively on alleged internal evidence, and ignore or seek to undermine the external evidence and testimony of writers, who lived about that time, some of whom had connections to John.
The rest of that article pretty much destroys your contentions and eschatology.
Looks like you’re a Preterist but not a Presbyterian according to the official Presbyterian Church site.
http://www.americanpresbyterianchurch.org/?page_id=1435
If this be the case with Scripture in general, it is especially the case with prophetic Scripture. As every spoke in the wheel of Providence revolves, the prophetic symbols start into still more bold and beautiful relief. This is very strikingly the case with the prophetic language that forms the groundwork and cornerstone of the present work. There never has been any difficulty in the mind of any enlightened Protestant in identifying the woman “sitting on seven mountains,” and having on her forehead the name written, “Mystery, Babylon the Great,” with the Roman apostasy. “No other city in the world has ever been celebrated, as the city of Rome has, for its situation on seven hills. Pagan poets and orators, who had no thought of elucidating prophecy, have alike characterized it as ‘the seven hilled city.’” Thus Virgil refers to it: “Rome has both become the most beautiful [city] in the world, and alone has surrounded for herself seven heights with a wall.”
http://www.americanpresbyterianchurch.org/?page_id=2551
One day the Lord Jesus will return to this earth! His feet shall stand on the Mt. of Olives! Are you looking ahead to the Kingdom of the Lord Jesus Christ in that resurrection day? Do you say with John, “Even so come quickly, Lord Jesus? Are you waiting for this body of death to be changed? for sin to be eradicated completely? to bow before your Lord and Savior, your King and Judge?
Interesting. Can you dig up all the posts where you use a broad brush against dispensationalism establishing the Scofield/Darby straw man?
Presbyterianism, a religious movement begun in the 1500s largely based on the theology of John Calvin and John Knox. There does not seem to be one Presbyterian Church, but rather seems to be organized along national boundaries. In the United States it seems to keep re-inventing itself by serially splitting and re-forming. At number 10, Presbyterian Church (U.S.A.) is the largest of the Presbyterian denominations in this country. The USA seems to be the national designation for it. The other seceding entities do not seem to be large enough to make the top 25. When I previously asked you if your Presbyterian church supported the boycott of Israel you declined to respond. Fast Facts about American Religion indicates the following: