[terycarl]

The truth is that Paul, along with the rest of the founding fathers of the Church, were followers of Christ, members of His Church — which consists of all those who’ve been adopted into His family, and is not restricted to those who are members of the Roman Catholic denomination.

the only church present at that time was the church which they had founded...the Catholic church...there were no Lutherans, no Methodists, no Latter day Saints, no evangelical anythings

[Colonel_Flagg]

the only church present at that time was the church which they had founded...the Catholic church...

Do you mean to suggest that Christ didn't found the church? Even Matthew 16:18, which you use to claim the primacy of Peter, is clear that Christ founded the church.

Since you claimed earlier in this thread that Catholics wrote His Word too, it has to be asked: do you really mean to place God in such a deliberately subordinate position? Perhaps you're merely being careless with language, because God does not appear to enjoy primacy in your recounting of history.

[ealgeone]

the only church present at that time was the church which they had founded...the Catholic church...there were no Lutherans, no Methodists, no Latter day Saints, no evangelical anythings.

Nope....the only identified "church" were the Christians....not catholics, Baptists, Methodists, etc.

[metmom]

the only church present at that time was the church which they had founded...the Catholic church...there were no Lutherans, no Methodists, no Latter day Saints, no evangelical anythings

Show me in Scripture where Jesus named the Catholic church as His church.

Otherwise, Catholics are just co-opting the term.

[Theo]

There was one class of people whom Jesus rebuked most — the leaders in the “established” church. Jesus railed against the priests, and was right in doing so. The “established” church disgusted Him, and His heart ached for those abused by the leaders of that “established” church.

God has a pattern of calling people to Himself, apart from the “established” church. He calls a remnant, who defer to Him and love Him.

Certainly, God has members of His family within the Roman Catholic church. But it is demonic arrogance to think that those outside your denomination are somehow outside of God’s family.