Posted on 03/19/2014 1:32:10 PM PDT by rwa265
If a Protestant looking into the claims of Catholicism were to ask me, “What one book should I read, where I can find a quick answer to any question I have?” I would tell him to read Devin Rose’s new book The Protestant’s Dilemma. I would also recommend this book to Protestant apologists, even those of many years, well-skilled in polemics. It will remind them of the heavy burden of proof they face, and the weakness of their position on point after point. The truth may set them free and bring them home too. (It has happened.)
All this may seem like overstatement — the obligatory praise from one Catholic blogger to another. But it is not.
Consider first the range of issues this book takes up. There are thirty-six chapters, each one on a different topic, from the papacy to sola scriptura, from the canon of the Bible to Purgatory, from confession to Eucharist to infant baptism. If something about the Catholic Church troubles you, this book has the answer. If you think you have found the point on which Catholicism fails, this book will show you why it is one more point upon which Protestantism fails.
Consider also the brevity. The book is just over 200 pages long, which means that Mr. Rose’s answers get to the root of the question without a knot of academic detail. It is harder to do than it might seem. This is the book of a man who has spent a long time studying the questions that divide Protestants and Catholics, and who knows how to present his case in a way that is easy for anyone to understand. At the same time, the book is useful for the professional apologist, for it recalls his mind to the basics.
(Excerpt) Read more at scottericalt.com ...
Elsie wasn’t talking about my comment.
The nuanced and unanimous statemen, in English and translated into Arabic - with what the rendering of it said being disputed - and given under political pressure, could not honestly be saying we did not have a Christian foundation as a country, but it was not founded on it in the sense of the US gov. being founded as a national theocracy.
Nor could it honestly say American has in itself no character of enmity against the laws, religion, or tranquility, of Mussulmen Muslims, as the very idea of a national theocracy which it opposed was contrary in character to Islam, and the character of our laws certainly opposed polygamy, as would be seen by specific rulings.
What is could have expressed was that the government was not an agent of religious force, and that the character of this government had no enmity against the tranquility of Mussulmen Muslims and the peaceful practice of their faith.
And as a growing nation it sought peaceful and lawful commerce with all, without the need for force.
Yes, there is a mighty contrast.
Gotcha can’t/ won’t answer the question. Here is a hint you folks didn’t exist for about a thousand years, So no truth about God has EVER come from Protestantism. That leaves the Catholic Church.
He was quoting YOU. Go ahead look far enough back, I gave the post # you made the comment in. AFSD Still waiting.
As one would expect, you and your peanut gallery would be wrong, again...
There are still approximately 1,000 manuscripts or manuscript fragments of Medieval German Bible translations extant.[1] The earliest known and partly still available Germanic version of the Bible was the fourth century Gothic translation of Wulfila (ca. 311-380). This version, translated primarily from the Greek, established much of the Germanic Christian vocabulary that is still in use today.
But how can that be...No one but the Catholics knew what a pencil was....HaHaHa.....You guys crack me up...
No, it leaves Scripture.
I was born in the 50's. I'll betcha nobody was born a thousand years ago and is still alive.
I'm not a Protestant either. I'm a born again follower of Jesus Christ.
Really??? Who wrote the German language bible around 300 AD translated right from the original Greek??? Here's a hint...It wasn't a Catholic...
I did go back.
Post 582 was where Elsie gave the rating to post 567. The quote he put in italics was not mine.
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/religion/3135058/posts?page=582#582
From post 567 verga.....”Thank you for the sage advice, since you have not been able to tell me the meaning of AFSD, I will chalk that up as a humongous win.”
THAT was what was quoted and rated.
You lose.
Metmom
Whenever I want to checkout a question about the Apostolic Succession of Popes the first person I always turn to is a good old fallen away, poorly catechized former Catholic like Bob Thiel who wrote the article in question. He is the Pastor/Overseer for the Continuing Church of God used here to include those Sabbatarian (sabbath-keeping) churches that are faithful to apostolic Christianity (most generally, but not exclusively, those who had some type of affiliation with the pre-1986 Worldwide Church of God, and/or hold similar beliefs).
Yeah right I am going to rely on some fallen away Catholic like yourself to ‘splain it all to me.
Good old pastor Thiel creates unsubstantiated assertions like you quote Scripture.
You need help.
AMDG
Oh sweety go back and see where YOU told izzy to chalk it up to a win. I guess that makes you the loser, Still. Might be time to check into better meds.
There was no German language in 300 AD. Learn some history.
There was one class of people whom Jesus rebuked most — the leaders in the “established” church. Jesus railed against the priests, and was right in doing so. The “established” church disgusted Him, and His heart ached for those abused by the leaders of that “established” church.
God has a pattern of calling people to Himself, apart from the “established” church. He calls a remnant, who defer to Him and love Him.
Certainly, God has members of His family within the Roman Catholic church. But it is demonic arrogance to think that those outside your denomination are somehow outside of God’s family.
Biggest one I’ve found is that they agree what their pastor preaches less than 3/4 of the time, which I have heard from the majority I have asked.
Is that anything like Catholics who disagree with their priests and CCC on issues like: divorce, remarriage, contraception, abortion, homosexual marriage, etc?
Cause daniel1212 has all kinds of stats on where most Catholics stand on those issues.
For that matter, there was this poll that the Catholic church itself recently did to try to find out where its constituents stand on different matters.
Here's a link to a thread on it.
Catholics 'divided on issues such as divorce and birth control'
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-chat/3124309/posts As a Catholic if I disagree on even one point I get myself before the blessed Sacrament to conform myself to the Church.
will never happen with protestants.
Isn't happening with Catholics either.
dan can provide stats showing that priests don't even conform to their own church dogmas and doctrines.
And of course, there's that problem with the vows of chastity they have taken when they molest children.
It appears that the priests don't agree with Catholic policy either when they don't adhere to it themselves.
If you are Christian there are 3 choices: Catholic Rite, Orthodox rite, or prot. Learn some facts.
Seeing it was YOU Elsie was quoting........"Hoisted by your own petard... " comes to mind.
I specifically stated incunabula printed Bibles prior to 1500.
All of the extant PRINTED German bibles prior to 1500 were Catholic translations from Douay Rheims.
For The Greater a Glory Of God
You need help.
I think I have entered the Twilight Zone.
I quote Scripture and I need help?
What? would you rather I posted unsubstantitated assertions?
Come to think of it. Probably......
The quote was yours ergo, the rating goes to you. Google is your friend AFSD.
I don’t belong to a denomination. I don’t identify by religious affiliation.
Denominations don’t save. Jesus does.
THOSE are the facts.
Disclaimer: Opinions posted on Free Republic are those of the individual posters and do not necessarily represent the opinion of Free Republic or its management. All materials posted herein are protected by copyright law and the exemption for fair use of copyrighted works.