Posted on 03/19/2014 1:32:10 PM PDT by rwa265
If a Protestant looking into the claims of Catholicism were to ask me, What one book should I read, where I can find a quick answer to any question I have? I would tell him to read Devin Roses new book The Protestants Dilemma. I would also recommend this book to Protestant apologists, even those of many years, well-skilled in polemics. It will remind them of the heavy burden of proof they face, and the weakness of their position on point after point. The truth may set them free and bring them home too. (It has happened.)
All this may seem like overstatement the obligatory praise from one Catholic blogger to another. But it is not.
Consider first the range of issues this book takes up. There are thirty-six chapters, each one on a different topic, from the papacy to sola scriptura, from the canon of the Bible to Purgatory, from confession to Eucharist to infant baptism. If something about the Catholic Church troubles you, this book has the answer. If you think you have found the point on which Catholicism fails, this book will show you why it is one more point upon which Protestantism fails.
Consider also the brevity. The book is just over 200 pages long, which means that Mr. Roses answers get to the root of the question without a knot of academic detail. It is harder to do than it might seem. This is the book of a man who has spent a long time studying the questions that divide Protestants and Catholics, and who knows how to present his case in a way that is easy for anyone to understand. At the same time, the book is useful for the professional apologist, for it recalls his mind to the basics.
(Excerpt) Read more at scottericalt.com ...
In other words, you can't answer that...Catholics just follow along like little ducks...
Indeed it was. Thank you for posting that Elsie. It would be an interesting thread on its own.
"Your goose is cooked," a popular English language idiom, arose in reference to Jan Hus. Hus means goose in Czech. Hus' friends loved to make goose puns, as did Martin Luther a century later. It's what's behind the swan symbol so often associated with the Lutheran Church. Hus himself is reputed to have said "today you are burning a goose, but out of my ashes will be born a swan," just prior to his being burned at the stake, with the fire at his feet fueled by his own manuscripts.
The ideals of the Declaration of Independence were not compatible with human bondage, this was recognized even in areas heavily dependent upon slavery. There were numerous unsuccessful attempts at negotiating a way out, many knew even then that it would eventually tear the nation apart. George Mason was particularly prescient. The history that is taught today is very simplistic, black and white, right and wrong, to the point of outright falsehood. Suffice it to say, it was complicated. There were slave owners in the north, with New England having profited particularly handsomely from the shipping trade in slaves. There were people freeing their slaves in the south; several Founders did so, as did others. The reality was, however, that the largely agrarian south had no other means then apparent to replace slave labor, and so it continued there.
Actually it is spelled out pretty clear in the Bible. A literate person... Oh sorry I forgot who I walking talking to.
More proof AFSD.
Did you ever learn the entire quote?
Obviously you don't even know what your own religion teaches about it...You make a claim and can't back it up, with anything...Don't you ever get embarrassed???
Is anything I say going to change your mind or heart? That is a serious legitimate question. Dozens perhaps hundreds of refutations of your palaver have been posted over the years yet you keep posting the same lies over and over. So Seriously will anything I or any other Catholic post going to make you change your mind or heart?
Don't you ever get embarrassed???
For speaking the truth, never it is those that bear false witness to the Catholic Church over and over that should be embarrassed.
“Are you talking about ROME’s bad popes again?”
so basically you are saying that you, Elsie, cannot help anyone to achieve salvation.
Because: your progenitors have had 25 - 30 generations from the time of Christ before YOU arrived on earth...
in the intervening 25 - 30 generations, statistics dictate that your ancestors have included psychopaths, manic/depressives, schizophrenics, thieves, rapists, murderers, surely sinners of all stripes - statistically speaking of course.
having such a statistically degenerate background, it would certainly be impossible for you, Elsie to be capable of bringing any good into the world. You and your progeny would forever be incapable of helping anyone and could bring the faith to no one. So you and your progeny are forever damned.
Stupid analogy you say! bad premise you say! bad conclusion you say! big Red Herring you say! anti-Elsie you say!!!
Well not as stupid an analogy, not as bad a premise, not as inane a conclusion, not as big a Red Herring and not as anti-Catholic as that tripe your peddling about the Medici popes.
For the Greater Glory of God
Devin Rose (Author) 4.6 out of 5 stars
http://www.amazon.com/The-Protestants-Dilemma-Reformations-Consequences/dp/1938983610/ref=tmm_pap_title_0?ie=UTF8&qid=1395588166&sr=1-1
Publication Date: February 21, 2014
What if Protestantism were true? What if the Reformers really were heroes, the Bible the sole rule of faith, and Christs Church just an invisible collection of loosely united believers?
As an Evangelical, Devin Rose used to believe all of it. Then one day the nagging questions began. He noticed things about Protestant belief and practice that didnt add up. He began following the logic of Protestant claims to places he never expected it to go -leading to conclusions no Christians would ever admit to holding.
In The Protestants Dilemma, Rose examines over thirty of those conclusions, showing with solid evidence, compelling reason, and gentle humor how the major tenets of Protestantism - if honestly pursued to their furthest extent - wind up in dead ends. The only escape? Catholic truth. Rose patiently unpacks each instance, and shows how Catholicism solves the Protestants dilemma through the witness of Scripture, Christian history, and the authority with which Christ himself undeniably vested his Church.
The Protestants Dilemma is the perfect book for non-Catholics trying to work through their own nagging doubts, or for Catholics looking for a fresh way to deepen their understanding of the Faith.
I'm on my way to Mass, and will pray for both my Catholic and protestant brethren.
Peace to you on the Lord's Day.
For The Greater Glory of God
Decided to order that and the other two items linked with it.
This isn't about “polemics”.
The question should be, “Has the Holy Spirit testified to you of the truth?”
The question should be, “Have you read and prayed about the Bible?”
Isn’t selling merchandise on FR forbidden?
The original post is a book report. What harm is that?
The article is a book review.
Everything that is good and true about God has come from the Catholic Church. The Bible says the Church is the Pillar and foundation of truth.
So you continue to fail...Still can't back it up...
Is anything I say going to change your mind or heart? That is a serious legitimate question. Dozens perhaps hundreds of refutations of your palaver have been posted over the years yet you keep posting the same lies over and over. So Seriously will anything I or any other Catholic post going to make you change your mind or heart?
Of course there’s no answer.
Making it personal is the knee jerk, default answer when you’ve made a point that can’t be refuted.
I chalk it up as a win.
Anyone who believes that is more deluded than they could ever realize.
Who were those pesky Jews after all?
They didn't make any contributions to what we know about God, now did they?
Give all the credit to the Catholic church.
BWAHAHAHAHA!!!!!!!!!!!!
The assimilation is complete.......
Still overall and early on, in a pamphlet for Europeans titled ''Information to Those Who Would Remove to America'' (1754), Benjamin Franklin wrote, in part:
"...serious religion, under its various denominations, is not only tolerated, but respected and practiced. Atheism is unknown there; Infidelity rare and secret; so that persons may live to a great age in that country without having their piety shocked by meeting with either an Atheist or an Infidel. And the Divine Being seems to have manifested His approbation of the mutual forbearance and kindness by which the different sects treat each other, and by the remarkable prosperity with which He has been please to favor the whole country. - John Gould Curtis, ''American history told by contemporaries ...''. Volume 3, p. 26; The Life of Benjamin Franklin, Comprising the Account of the Early Part of His Life, Written by Himself; and a New and Greatly Extended Narrative in Continuation Till His Death, .p. 80
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