Posted on 03/19/2014 1:32:10 PM PDT by rwa265
If a Protestant looking into the claims of Catholicism were to ask me, What one book should I read, where I can find a quick answer to any question I have? I would tell him to read Devin Roses new book The Protestants Dilemma. I would also recommend this book to Protestant apologists, even those of many years, well-skilled in polemics. It will remind them of the heavy burden of proof they face, and the weakness of their position on point after point. The truth may set them free and bring them home too. (It has happened.)
All this may seem like overstatement the obligatory praise from one Catholic blogger to another. But it is not.
Consider first the range of issues this book takes up. There are thirty-six chapters, each one on a different topic, from the papacy to sola scriptura, from the canon of the Bible to Purgatory, from confession to Eucharist to infant baptism. If something about the Catholic Church troubles you, this book has the answer. If you think you have found the point on which Catholicism fails, this book will show you why it is one more point upon which Protestantism fails.
Consider also the brevity. The book is just over 200 pages long, which means that Mr. Roses answers get to the root of the question without a knot of academic detail. It is harder to do than it might seem. This is the book of a man who has spent a long time studying the questions that divide Protestants and Catholics, and who knows how to present his case in a way that is easy for anyone to understand. At the same time, the book is useful for the professional apologist, for it recalls his mind to the basics.
(Excerpt) Read more at scottericalt.com ...
Yet, nowhere in the written form of Gods Word is the claim of Mary's authority made or that it is a channel of prayer from His people to Jesus.
Thank you again, for continuing to validate my initial post in this thread.
I will do as you suggest; I am declaring victory and leaving the field of battle.
A prince, while he is a little child, is presumably as willful and as ignorant as other little children. Sometimes he may be very obedient and teachable and affectionate, and then he is happy and approved. At other times he may be unruly, self-willed, and disobedient, and then he is unhappy, and perhaps is chastisedbut he is just as much a prince on the one day as on the other..i> Where is that in the Bible? You perhaps purposely failed to failed to provide the context, which is about the believers positional status versus his practical reality at the time, but that God will make the latter into the former, though i would add as long as one is a true believer, dying in faith. The student will be able to add largely to this list of comparative passages showing that the Scripture makes a clear distinction between the standing and state of the believer. It will be seen that he is not under probation to see if he is worthy of an inconceivably exalted position, but, beginning with the confession of his utter unworthiness, receives the position wholly as the result of Christ's work. Positionally he is "perfected forever" (Heb. 10: 14), but looking within, at his state, he must say, "Not as though I had already attained, either were already perfect" (Phil. 3:12). - http://www.biblebelievers.com/scofield/scofield_rightly08.html Thus let me show you where this is shown. In which we see practical sinners, who are sometimes teachable and affectionate, and then he is happy and approved, and at other times he may be unruly, self-willed, and disobedient, and then he is unhappy, and perhaps is chastised. And in any case he fails of the absolute holiness needed to be with God. But positionally he is just as much a prince on the one day as on the other, being washed, but ye are sanctified, but ye are justified in the name of the Lord Jesus, and by the Spirit of our God. And thus the appeal to realize the positional status one has in order to live it out. Under grace the souls is purified by faith, (Acts 15:9) and given the justify righteousness he could never earn even under the holy Law, and which is the basis for his acceptance with the almighty. But true faith is an obedient faith, and and God works in this life to effect growth in grace toward maturity. And once he dies in faith (and thus the exhortations to do so, and warnings against departing from the living God: Gal. 5:1-4; Heb. 3:9,12,14; 10:38) this will be realized. If this seems strange to a RC, it is because the salvation system of Rome is contrary to the NT, as it holds that the act of sprinkling even a morally incognizant infant, even by an unbelievers, renders the subject formally justified based on interior goodness ("infused charity") so they could enter glory that moment. However, since this is based on one's own holiness, then the subject must usually end the salvation process by becoming good enough thru the torments of Rome's purgatory (even rejected by the EOs) to enter Heaven. |
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As it is written, There is none righteous, no, not one: (Romans 3:10) For while one saith, I am of Paul; and another, I am of Apollos; are ye not carnal? (1 Corinthians 3:4) For in many things we offend all. If any man offend not in word, the same is a perfect man, and able also to bridle the whole body. (James 3:2) And make straight paths for your feet, lest that which is lame be turned out of the way; but let it rather be healed. (Hebrews 12:13) That ye put off concerning the former conversation the old man, which is corrupt according to the deceitful lusts; (Ephesians 4:22) As many as I love, I rebuke and chasten: be zealous therefore, and repent. (Revelation 3:19) Wherefore seeing we also are compassed about with so great a cloud of witnesses, let us lay aside every weight, and the sin which doth so easily beset us, and let us run with patience the race that is set before us, (Hebrews 12:1) Having therefore these promises, dearly beloved, let us cleanse ourselves from all filthiness of the flesh and spirit, perfecting holiness in the fear of God. (2 Corinthians 7:1) Therefore we are always confident, knowing that, whilst we are at home in the body, we are absent from the Lord: (2 Corinthians 5:6) For we that are in this tabernacle do groan, being burdened: not for that we would be unclothed, but clothed upon, that mortality might be swallowed up of life. (2 Corinthians 5:4)
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But to him that worketh not, but believeth on him that justifieth the ungodly, his faith is counted for righteousness. (Romans 4:5) Unto the church of God which is at Corinth, to them that are sanctified in Christ Jesus, called to be saints, with all that in every place call upon the name of Jesus Christ our Lord, both theirs and ours: (1 Corinthians 1:2) ...but ye are washed, but ye are sanctified, but ye are justified in the name of the Lord Jesus, and by the Spirit of our God. (1 Corinthians 6:11) To the praise of the glory of his grace, wherein he hath made us accepted in the beloved. (Ephesians 1:6) And hath raised us up together, and made us sit together in heavenly places in Christ Jesus: (Ephesians 2:6) For our conversation is in heaven; from whence also we look for the Saviour, the Lord Jesus Christ: (Philippians 3:20) For by one offering he hath perfected for ever them that are sanctified. (Hebrews 10:14) If we live in the Spirit, let us also walk in the Spirit. (Galatians 5:25) If ye then be risen with Christ, seek those things which are above, where Christ sitteth on the right hand of God. (Colossians 3:1) Who shall also confirm you unto the end, that ye may be blameless in the day of our Lord Jesus Christ. (1 Corinthians 1:8) Being confident of this very thing, that he which hath begun a good work in you will perform it until the day of Jesus Christ: (Philippians 1:6) But when we are judged, we are chastened of the Lord, that we should not be condemned with the world. (1 Corinthians 11:32) Beloved, now are we the sons of God, and it doth not yet appear what we shall be: but we know that, when he shall appear, we shall be like him; for we shall see him as he is. (1 John 3:2) |
I have spent too much time obsessing about the untruths and deliberate lies repeated here by anti Catholic Christians.
No; thanks belong to YOU; for never being able to point out one of these deliberate lies.
Mormons say likewise, but the subjective must be subject to the objective, and which is not a cause for peace but separation. (1Cor. 11:19)
But the situation is more stable than in the past.
John 17:17 Sanctify them in the truth; your word is truth.
The CCC is NOT the Truth as Scripture is the Truth.
Much if it isn't even true.
It's just the Catholic church's attempt to define its doctrine and dogma and doesn't even do a very good job at that. Too much of it is too ambiguous and open to ....... a person's own personal interpretation of the CCC.
Who said that? Could you provide the post numbers and links?
She was a special woman in Gods plan for salvation.
Who has disagreed with that?
The Blessed Mother reminds us of what women are called to be.
What? Is society still so sexist that we can't respect women without idolizing Mary?
God chose her, there are many valid reasons for that.
Yup. She had the right bloodlines.
There is a spiritual battle and the saints that have gone before us are still fighting the good fight.
Really? Where in Scripture is that recorded?
Then that by default, leaves only a works based salvation.
Where is that mantra that the priest says found in Scripture?
Where did Jesus tell His apostles to recite those words to forgive the persons confessing?
If not in Scripture, where did they find it and how?
Where did CB break the RF rules that required notifying the mod?
Let me know if you get an answer.
In the meantimes, have some?
No.
He said He was going to BUILD his church, not set it up as an authoritative dictatorship.
Thank you for validating my initial post to this thread.
Thank you for validating my initial post to this thread.
Catholics post hit pieces on Prots and then whine about the *haters* when the Prots object to the half-truths posted about them.
The victim mentality on display by Catholics when they complain because someone responds to their provocation is reminiscent of a playground bully complaining because someone he’s been bullying gives it back to him.
If you can’t take it, don’t dish it out.
Thank you for validating my initial post to this thread.
Yeah, resorting third gradish sophistry is not a really great way to win an argument, you know.
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