Posted on 03/16/2014 9:25:11 AM PDT by NKP_Vet
I was invited to attend a screening of the movie Noah on Thursday March 6. The movie starring Russell Crowe as Noah (and including Jennifer Connelly, Emma Watson, Anthony Hopkins and Ray Winstone) is set to be released on March 28, 2014. While reviews are embargoed, I wanted to share a few specific thoughts in response to all the chatter out there from people who haven't seen the film.
There has been some concern expressed in the Christian community due to the fact that the movie is not a literal depiction of the scriptural account of Noah (chapters 5-9 from the Book of Genesis). There has also been concern expressed about the choices the director and screenwriters made adding details to the account that weren't in Genesis. For example, how did Noah build an ark that big? How did Noah react to the death and destruction of all things living in the world outside of the ark? Did Noah's contemporaries know the floods were going to come and what (if anything) did they do to fight for their lives? How did 7 pairs of each animal come to be in the ark and stay calm for months on board?
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Alex:
I don’t think the blogger wrote “8 reasons for Calvinist to go see the movie”. I think he said Catholic and was expressing his views [personal]. I probably will not see the movie as I tend to not go to movies in general.
Now as to whether Alex goes to see Noah or not, well I guess that has been Predestined positively or negatively.
From what I understand the “Noah” movie is nothing but left wing environmentalist propaganda. But then, as Alex said, Catholics don’t believe the events in the Noah story ever happened anyway.
Yeah; I think that's about right.
I don’t think the blogger wrote “8 reasons for Calvinist to go see the movie”. I think he said Catholic and was expressing his views [personal]. I probably will not see the movie as I tend to not go to movies in general.
Now as to whether Alex goes to see Noah or not, well I guess that has been Predestined positively or negatively.
Because as we all "know," only Calvinists believe the events of Genesis 1-11 actually happened. After all, higher criticism is one of those Catholic distinctives, just like the rosary! Though one wonders why this Catholic distinctive didn't exist until it was invented by radical Protestants in late nineteenth century Germany.
You've never seen a Seder `Olam poster on the wall of a yeshivah, have you?
Still not an excuse to lash out like a 10 year old who was denied a Shetland pony for his birthday.
Does it indeed? Does it seem right to go on a thread that has nothing to do with you with the sole intent of stirring up bad feelings by posting an insulting and 100% FALSE list of lies?
I’ve been looking forward to the Noah movie but am disappointed that it might only focus on environmentalism. The central theme of the Flood must be God’s displeasure with sin and human wickedness. As John Paul, Benedict, and Francis have all pointed out, disrespect for human life devastates creation. Isn’t this common sense? If people don’t respect and defend human life, why should they care about the inanimate earth it dwells upon?
“Worship of the natural always leads to the unnatural.”
-G.K. Chesterton
God says you and your religion are wrong...Why do you continue with the false teaching???
Mat 19:9 And I say unto you, Whosoever shall put away his wife, except it be for fornication, and shall marry another, committeth adultery: and whoso marrieth her which is put away doth commit adultery.
And beyond that, if your religion wants to keep you guys under the law, if the wife commits adultery, she is to be killed which would make you a widower and legal to remarry anyway...
And Waaaayyyy beyond that is the grace of God...For Protestants who believe the scriptures, we're not in trouble at all for remarrying...We are not under the law...
Rom_5:13 (For until the law sin was in the world: but sin is not imputed when there is no law.
Why does your religion so corrupt and pervert the scriptures???
Russell Crowe is not Catholic and from what I can find out the movie has nothing to do with the environment.
They probably won't check the bible to see if the movie is accurate anyway...
Bible, what Bible, never heard of it.
That Jesus spoke so unequivocally about divorce in Mark 10 , and even more so in Luke 16 (Every one that put away his wife and marry another commits adultery. Every one), would suggest to me that Matthew 19 refers to something else. Perhaps "whosoever put away his wife except it be for fornication" is referring to a common law wife, ie it is not lawful to put away your wife unless you are not truly married to begin with, but living in a state of fornication already.
Thoughts?
Gospel audiences.
I have heard that the unicorns were too clever for their own good -- they ran away and hid themselves from Noah.
That’s one reason I love watching a lot of classic, older films from the days where Hollywood was more concerned about entertaining us rather than spewing cultural Marxism at our expense.
Zionist:
Are you Alex? and are you a Calvinist?
Let’s assume you are not Alex and not Calvinist, the Rosary is a prayer tradition and is distinctively Catholic and yet nobody has to ever pray the Catholic and one is still a Catholic. Higher critical biblical scholarship is a 19th century German Protestant movement, on that point you are correct. Yes, Higher Criticism has been used in Catholic circles since Pope Pius Apostolic letter allowing Catholic biblical scholars to use that “Methodology”. I have, as I have said here before, problems with the extensive use of that methodology and think many of its adherents are dissenters and push unorthodox doctrines. Fr. Hans Kung is perhaps one of the foremost theologians who embraced the higher critical method, as did Americans like Fr. Charles Curran, and the New Jerome Biblical Commentary, edited by Fr. Raymond Brown, uses it extensively.
The rest of your post had nothing to do with being Alex nor being Calvinist. What was the point of the preamble, then?
Alex:
The point is that Zionist and I have been down this road before with the higher criticism stuff. The Catholic blogger endorsed nothing regarding higher criticism, so Zionist argument was 100% dishonest and made implicit accusations about the Catholic blogger that were outright false.
The central points of the blog were that the movie is not written from a Literal line by line account from Genesis, never the less, its stays true to the core of the salvific truths and in a pretty much direct way, is a pro-life movie, which coming from Hollywood, is a miracle in itself.
Given the points above, the author hypothesizes that those in American society who are more secular might be inclined to see the movie and that could open up a chance for dialogue with said individuals and some of those said folks might return back to their Christian roots, if they are lapsed, or may be open to exploring the Christian Message for the first time.
So the 2nd part of the post was directed at Zionist. The OP of mine was addressed to you as again, the Catholic blogger wrote why in his opinion, Catholics should not ex ante reject seeing the movie. Again, he said nothing regarding Calvinist or whatever group Zionist associates with.
For argument's sake, let's assume again that Zionist Conspirator and I are not the same person. Given that few people have actually seen the completed film to date, I think the above bolded statement is far too assumptive, especially given the director's prior work. We should revisit this once the movie is out and the full plot is known.
One does not have to believe that the first part of Genesis is “allegorical” to interpret it differently from the fundamentalists. Whoever wrote it just accepted the cosmology of the time, which is quite different from our own. But the writer(s) had a very different theological view of the Creation than their pagan neighbors. It is the view that we find in the Book of Daniel, that the Most High God directs the course of events.
So what about “evolution,” et al,? At bottom is the assertion of a cosmology very different from that of the ancient pagans, one that takes for granted that blind chance governs all actions. That all appearance of order is an illusion. That nothing exists but what is analogous to what is presented to our senses, things we call “matter.”
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