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How Do we Know the Gospels are Historical?
http://www.strangenotions.com ^ | Fr. Dwight Longenecker

Posted on 03/11/2014 6:32:04 PM PDT by NKP_Vet

Among Catholics and atheists, is easy to exchange convinced assertions: “The gospels are 100% God’s holy Word and every bit is historically accurate!” or “The gospels are fairy tales!” However there is a discipline called “Biblical scholarship” in which scholars do some very interesting work determining just which parts of the gospels they think are reliable and which they think are not. Their conclusions are, of course, debated. That’s what scholars do. Their work is fascinating and it is worth taking some time to look at just a smidgen of their methodology and conclusions.

Bible scholars are most interested in trying to determine whether the original gospels record eyewitness accounts, and whether those original versions have been transmitted accurately. To do this scholars consider several factors: 1) authorship and date of composition, 2) intention and genre, 3) gospel sources and oral tradition, 4) textual criticism, 5) historical authenticity of specific sayings and narrative events.

One of the difficult aspects for modern people to understand is just what kind of document the gospels are. Everyone can admit that they are not written as purely historical documents, but neither are they simply fabulous fables, myths, or fairy tales. In continuity with the Old Testament, and consistent with their Jewish origins, we have documents which are presented as history and have plenty of historically verifiable details, but which also have supernatural and otherworldly elements to them

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TOPICS: Apologetics; History; Moral Issues; Theology
KEYWORDS: apologetics; bible; historicity; historicityofchrist; historicityofjesus
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To: fabian
You won’t be still nor really want to know the way to God.
You only want to think you have what your intellect tells you you have.
You have made that clear with your cult judg.ents of me and the church that I love and that has the real silent prayer that helps sooooo many people.
You guys areclokeclegalisit Jews ofvold, dependent o vscriptures when really,the holy spirit is the dominate one now.
You just will not get it...too busy being full of self-righteousness and misrepresenting what a Christians is.
Apostate cult is where you guys live...sadly.
 
 
Jibber jabber.
 
LEAD us into Salvation.
 
You've claimed you can do it; but the LURKERS here have seen NOTHING but boasting, bragging and  bovine excrement.
 

201 posted on 03/14/2014 8:45:42 AM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: Elsie

I am not a lurker and you are a judger, not Christian....someone who needs the crutch of the bible because you don’t really have love for the holy spirit. You already know that my church is the fhu.com and that I practice the Be Still silent prayer their, which has helped to totally transform so many and bring them to Jesus. So why do you ask me? Just so you can continue on with your judgments about this wonderful Christian/Jew who is doing what the churches of today have FAILED to do? Well, go right ahead and make more of a fool of yourself if you must. Have a good one!


202 posted on 03/14/2014 9:04:34 AM PDT by fabian (" And a new day will dawn for those who stand long, and the forests will echo in laughter")
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To: fabian; Elsie
You already know that my church is the fhu.com and that I practice the Be Still silent prayer their, which has helped to totally transform so many and bring them to Jesus.

Experience junkies.

Faith doesn't come by experience, but by the word of Christ.

Satan's best tactic....*Did God really say....?

*See, you don't need to listen to the words of God. Just experience what I'm offering you.*

Masters is a false prophet leading people to hell, but you can't tell an experience junkie the truth. They don't want to hear anything that conflicts with their experiences.

203 posted on 03/14/2014 9:45:19 AM PDT by metmom (...fixing our eyes on Jesus, the Author and Perfecter of our faith....)
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To: metmom

Nope..you are caught in the cult of the Christian apostasy..you are knee deep in it. Christianity has been hijacked. Period.


204 posted on 03/14/2014 10:11:51 AM PDT by fabian (" And a new day will dawn for those who stand long, and the forests will echo in laughter")
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To: fabian
I am not a lurker and you are a judger, not Christian....someone who needs the crutch of the bible because you don’t really have love for the holy spirit.

Says the person judging me.

205 posted on 03/14/2014 12:23:43 PM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: fabian
So why do you ask me?

Because YOU claim to be a Leader; do you not?

206 posted on 03/14/2014 12:25:18 PM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: fabian
Just so you can continue on with your judgments about this wonderful Christian/Jew who is doing what the churches of today have FAILED to do?

Doing?

Doing WHAT?

Why can't you tell me?

207 posted on 03/14/2014 12:26:19 PM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: fabian
Christianity has been hijacked. Period.

One needs a bit more than a half-filled water pistol to highjack something.

Time for you to reload.

208 posted on 03/14/2014 12:27:32 PM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: Elsie

Don’t be coy...if you have bothered to go to fhu.com, you would see what. It is in opposition to your acceptance of the cult of apostasy...masquerading as the Christian religion.


209 posted on 03/14/2014 12:29:33 PM PDT by fabian (" And a new day will dawn for those who stand long, and the forests will echo in laughter")
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To: Elsie

Oh no ..satan has done a masterful job of convincing church leadership to misrepresent Jesus and true Christianity..much more so than you care to realize. Because you are immersed in the cult of apostasy yourself. Poor fool.


210 posted on 03/14/2014 12:36:01 PM PDT by fabian (" And a new day will dawn for those who stand long, and the forests will echo in laughter")
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To: Elsie

Go get ‘im, grrrrl!


211 posted on 03/14/2014 12:36:55 PM PDT by Revolting cat! (Bad things are wrong! Ice cream is delicious! We reserve the right to serve refuse to anyone!)
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To: metmom; fabian; Elsie; GarySpFc; redleghunter; CynicalBear; boatbums; caww; smvoice; daniel1212
Back to the Roy Masters cult stuff ey? That was pretty well discussed here. And daniel1212 had some references to different comments of interest here and here.
212 posted on 03/14/2014 4:27:18 PM PDT by CynicalBear (For I decided to know nothing among you except Jesus Christ)
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To: CynicalBear

you too, are one that is in the cult of Christian apostasy...sad..http://youtu.be/BHnXvpPRHrE


213 posted on 03/14/2014 4:39:49 PM PDT by fabian (" And a new day will dawn for those who stand long, and the forests will echo in laughter")
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To: Elsie; fabian
all the while judging people like me.

So?

It's not that we're "judging" you, just what you are saying.

214 posted on 03/14/2014 4:57:38 PM PDT by boatbums (Simul justis et peccator.)
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To: fabian

Yeah, yeah, yeah. Your fhu.com doesn’t even mention Jesus or salvation. It’s a self help, physiological mess started by the hypnotist and eastern mysticism guru. We see your kind on a rather regular basis around here always knowing some better way than the apostles taught.


215 posted on 03/14/2014 4:58:18 PM PDT by CynicalBear (For I decided to know nothing among you except Jesus Christ)
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To: CynicalBear

Your fhu.com doesn’t even mention Jesus or salvation

Wrongo..again. They just do go on and on about Jesus, because people like you have turned so many away from his name.


216 posted on 03/14/2014 5:06:48 PM PDT by fabian (" And a new day will dawn for those who stand long, and the forests will echo in laughter")
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To: fabian
>> because people like you have turned so many away from his name.<<

Now what would you know about what I do or don’t do? Did you read my tag line or do you just spout stuff thinking you sound like you know what you’re talking about?

217 posted on 03/14/2014 5:12:48 PM PDT by CynicalBear (For I decided to know nothing among you except Jesus Christ)
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To: CynicalBear

the way you come across and the others..the whole bunch of you are exactly what I describe in this short video...
http://youtu.be/BHnXvpPRHrE

I know you probably better than you know yourself.


218 posted on 03/14/2014 5:22:46 PM PDT by fabian (" And a new day will dawn for those who stand long, and the forests will echo in laughter")
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To: fabian
>>I know you probably better than you know yourself.<<

Of course you do Fabian. I went and watched your video. You seriously need help man. On so many levels I couldn’t even begin to address them in this forum.

219 posted on 03/14/2014 5:35:44 PM PDT by CynicalBear (For I decided to know nothing among you except Jesus Christ)
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To: CynicalBear

You have no idea how God has blessed me..and how you types are cursing yourselves.


220 posted on 03/14/2014 5:41:32 PM PDT by fabian (" And a new day will dawn for those who stand long, and the forests will echo in laughter")
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