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To: Just mythoughts
Deborah comes to mind. There were no men willing to take/do the job and Deborah did.

Sorry, you are wrong here. Barak was the boss, the leader of thousands of men. Deborah merely went up with him (Jdg. 4:9).

Please do not forget, this was a time when people were not following God. They were doing as whatever they wanted (Jdg. 17:6, 21:25). Sort of like your spiritually immature group you mention.

In fact, Just because one has a Bible in his hand and can read it does not make one authoritative with it. Spiritual maturity only comes by being discipled by someone who qualifies as a discipler. And that might mean (and often does) that someone who has graduated from a Bible School or seminary might not be spiritually mature, and not even know it! He must have been personally been discipled, and he must have been taught how to disciple others.

A pertinent Scripture is as follows:

2Pe 3:14-17

14 Wherefore, beloved, seeing that ye look for such things,
be diligent that ye may be found of him in peace, without
spot, and blameless.
15 And account that the longsuffering of our Lord is
salvation; even as our beloved brother Paul also according
to the wisdom given unto him hath written unto you;
16 As also in all his epistles, speaking in them of these
things; in which are some things hard to be understood,
which they that are unlearned and unstable wrest, as they
do also the other scriptures, unto their own destruction.
17 Ye therefore, beloved, seeing ye know these things
before, beware lest ye also, being led away with the error
of the wicked, fall from your own stedfastness.

In verse 16 above, the word translated "unlearned" is more effectively rendered as "undiscipled". Both Paul and Peter were discipled by Jesus, and knew the trmendous importance to the churches of discipling as an integral, persistently ongoing process.

You might want to mull on this, eh? Is it a process you would be interested in following?

103 posted on 03/06/2014 9:55:42 PM PST by imardmd1 (Fiat Lux)
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To: imardmd1
Sorry, you are wrong here. Barak was the boss, the leader of thousands of men. Deborah merely went up with him (Jdg. 4:9). Please do not forget, this was a time when people were not following God. They were doing as whatever they wanted (Jdg. 17:6, 21:25). Sort of like your spiritually immature group you mention.

Judges 4:4 And Deborah, a prophetess, the wife of Lapidoth, she judged Israel at that time.

Why did you skip this? Judges 4:6 (Notice who is giving the orders!) And she sent and called Barak the son of Abinoam out of Kedesh-naphtali, and said unto him, "Hath not the LORD God of Israel commanded, saying, 'Go and draw forward mount Tabor, and take with thee ten thousand men of the children of Naphtali and of the children of Zebulum?

God appointed/elected the judges. And there is no difference in how Israel as a nation was behaving then as there is in how we the US or the world for that matter are behaving right now. I seriously doubt you would have the same attitude regarding any of the other male judges that God set in motion. It was the children of Israel that demanded a king.

So do you preach that Rebekah demonstrates the nature of woman, deceptive and manipulative? I know that teaching is out there because I got told that was what the 'story' of Rebekah was all about.

I love IIPeter 3 the whole chapter. And to get the full flavor of verses 14-17 one cannot ignore the preceding verses from verse 1.

In fact, Just because one has a Bible in his hand and can read it does not make one authoritative with it. Spiritual maturity only comes by being discipled by someone who qualifies as a discipler. And that might mean (and often does) that someone who has graduated from a Bible School or seminary might not be spiritually mature, and not even know it! He must have been personally been discipled, and he must have been taught how to disciple others. A pertinent Scripture is as follows: 2Pe 3:14-17 14 Wherefore, beloved, seeing that ye look for such things, be diligent that ye may be found of him in peace, without spot, and blameless. 15 And account that the longsuffering of our Lord is salvation; even as our beloved brother Paul also according to the wisdom given unto him hath written unto you; 16 As also in all his epistles, speaking in them of these things; in which are some things hard to be understood, which they that are unlearned and unstable wrest, as they do also the other scriptures, unto their own destruction. 17 Ye therefore, beloved, seeing ye know these things before, beware lest ye also, being led away with the error of the wicked, fall from your own stedfastness. In verse 16 above, the word translated "unlearned" is more effectively rendered as "undiscipled". Both Paul and Peter were discipled by Jesus, and knew the trmendous importance to the churches of discipling as an integral, persistently ongoing process. You might want to mull on this, eh? Is it a process you would be interested in following?

Are you also one of these that preach the law is no longer in effect? Strange then that when it comes to the woman there is all manner of laws still in effect. See I cannot find it a bigger transgression of the law for any, male or female to claim they got a signal from God to preach when they were not called. I cannot find anywhere Written that God said it was no longer a 'sin' to have other gods before Him.

Was it God talking in Genesis 3:12? And the man said, "The woman whom Thou gavest to be with me, she gave me of the tree, and I did eat." Classic case of the liberal mind.

You might as well adjust your mind to the prophecy of Joel as it has not happened yet.

106 posted on 03/06/2014 10:26:57 PM PST by Just mythoughts (Jesus said Luke 17:32 Remember Lot's wife.)
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