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Yes, Atheism and Conservatism Are Compatible [uh, huh. bye]
NRO ^ | 26 Feb 2014 | Charles C. W. Cooke

Posted on 02/26/2014 3:05:25 PM PST by Notary Sojac

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To: Notary Sojac; re_nortex; humblegunner; darkwing104; 50mm; MestaMachine; Arrowhead1952; LUV W; ...

So long, Notary Sojac (Posting History)
Hat Tip to re_nortex
A long-overdue ZOT of an atheist-pushing a commie, anti-God agenda
that flies in the face of Conservatism, based on the Eternal Word of God
and what our Founding Fathers intended



And, suffice it to say, godless atheism is not among the principles of Free Republic.

Thank you, re_nortex for your comments.
Thank you, Mr. Eaker, for the ZOT graphic



FReepmail TheOldLady to get ON or OFF the ZOT LIGHTNING ping list.

61 posted on 02/26/2014 4:35:03 PM PST by TheOldLady
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To: Westbrook

Just being a devils advocate, but I’ll bite -

” why fight for “gun rights” if such things are a completely artificial construct?”
Its not an artificial construct, necessarily. Take an argument from tradition. By its nature its an organic undesigned thing (see Burke). It just grew and persisted from human generation to human generation, mutating slowly. Humans create traditions like ants build nests. Humans fight for traditions - Macaulays “Ashes of their fathers”. One can go in a different direction with the other takes on the question, all different and all mostly internally consistent.

On clothes -

Some human societies have gone naked if it seemed reasonable. Ancient Greece for instance, where (male) nudity was normal. And there are plenty of primitive or semi-primitive examples, the classic National Geographic excuse for nude pictures. My list of justifications stands - we are social animals and social norms are organic.

On the week -

This was not universal. It has become a (nearly) universal convention only because of the influence of the Western Christian and Muslim societies went global. China in ancient times had either a 5-day or a 10-day “week”, the Aztecs had a 13-day week, etc. There have been all sorts of variations, some of which still exist.

As for good and evil, you will have to look for a better man than I am to argue the other side ! Still, I don’t doubt some clever atheistic apologist could answer you lengthily if not convincingly.

“I would submit that biology is very unlikely the only force driving sentient beings capable of abstract thought.”

Well, yes, I think thats certainly true. Still, a clever atheist would find reasons to deny this. Such as, for instance, that we may be fooling ourselves as to how little we are driven by our biological natures. We are more animalistic than we think, etc.


62 posted on 02/26/2014 4:35:08 PM PST by buwaya
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To: Darksheare

Conservative thought and atheism are not compatible.
Godlessness leads to rejecting GOD GIVEN INALIENABLE RIGHTS.
Rights that are inherent in humanity that are given by God as the founders stated.
Atheism denies what the founders stated and believed.
Conservative thought seeks to preserve what the founders created and intended.


VERY WELL SAID!


63 posted on 02/26/2014 4:35:23 PM PST by little jeremiah (Courage is not simply one of the virtues, but the form of every virtue at the testing point. CSLewis)
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To: elkfersupper

The atheist won’t kill you for not agreeing with them.


Not for not being an atheist, but for not being a communist, or the “right kind” of communist.


64 posted on 02/26/2014 4:36:35 PM PST by little jeremiah (Courage is not simply one of the virtues, but the form of every virtue at the testing point. CSLewis)
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To: Gene Eric
Are you equating Christ to Allah?

No. christ to mohammed? Certainly.

Are you suggesting killing is immoral?

No, killing is sometimes necessary when somebody deprives another human of life, property or pursuit of happiness.

65 posted on 02/26/2014 4:37:34 PM PST by elkfersupper
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To: elkfersupper

Are you itching for a zot too? At least notary was somewhat a decent atheist. You are embarrassing yourself. But then, you always are embarrassing.


66 posted on 02/26/2014 4:37:36 PM PST by Responsibility2nd (NO LIBS. This Means Liberals and (L)libertarians! Same Thing. NO LIBS!!)
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To: albionin

You really don’t understand religion or conservatism.

The Christians that created America wanted small government, the less the better, the Christians would take care of the rest, the atheists and liberals, and anti-Christians want government to run everything.

Jesus spoke to us to take care of our neighbors as individuals, to reveal what is inside of us individually, not to do the opposite, and turn that over to government workers and the tax system, the government isn’t a “brother’s keeper”, that is why it is anti-God, and anti-Christian.

Capitalism is seen as the most moral of economic systems, you seem to see it as immoral, and socialism as moral, while you probably like capitalism yourself, in general, atheists are only interested in short term gain, so they vote democrat to loot what they can today, and to live as they want, for today, with no concern of the future, welfare doesn’t help the poor, it destroys them, but it serves as a power and wealth base for the left while at the same time, pushing out Christian charity.

You sound young, or as though you come from a liberal background.


67 posted on 02/26/2014 4:38:08 PM PST by ansel12 (Ben Bradlee -- JFK told me that "he was all for people's solving their problems by abortion".)
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>> Constitutionally and legally, America is a secular state

Judas kiss.


68 posted on 02/26/2014 4:38:26 PM PST by Gene Eric (Don't be a statist!)
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To: TheOldLady
glad..your back to your ZOTing ways! *grinning*

69 posted on 02/26/2014 4:39:36 PM PST by skinkinthegrass (The end move in politics is always to pick up a gun..0'Caligula / 0'Reid / 0'Pelosi)
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To: Responsibility2nd
Are you itching for a zot too? At least notary was somewhat a decent atheist. You are embarrassing yourself. But then, you always are embarrassing.

Knock yourself out and bite me.

You just don't like honest, reasonable folks with a command of the language.

70 posted on 02/26/2014 4:41:28 PM PST by elkfersupper
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To: elkfersupper

Do you realize that proper nouns are capitalized?


71 posted on 02/26/2014 4:41:41 PM PST by Gene Eric (Don't be a statist!)
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To: Notary Sojac
This could be fun to watch.

5.56mm

72 posted on 02/26/2014 4:43:16 PM PST by M Kehoe
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To: elkfersupper
So, if anybody places their faith/trust in themselves alone, they are either an atheist or an anarchist?

"Humanist" would an apropos attribution. I don't think anyone would argue that it is impossible for atheists to accommodate to a society based on monotheist principles in accord with a Judeo-Christian ethic (the society we participate in and have legally defined as such). It is in their best interest to do so under penalty of law.

73 posted on 02/26/2014 4:43:19 PM PST by Fester Chugabrew
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To: TheOldLady

Wow, he is banned.

The troll didn’t like it here anyway. I wish I could find his old pro-abortion post, he had many downplaying it, but once, he laid it out there in the open.

To: Tau Food
Free Republic has self selected over the last few years to a population which represents a fringe of a fringe of a fringe of a fringe.
You are correct that Mitt Romney would not last a day once the harpies and the viking kitties got wind of his presence.
But likewise any candidate who publicly expresses only those opinions which are Received Wisdom here on FR would be lucky to get three percent of the vote in any national election.
622 posted on 6/23/2012 2:06:34 PM by Notary Sojac


74 posted on 02/26/2014 4:44:53 PM PST by ansel12 (Ben Bradlee -- JFK told me that "he was all for people's solving their problems by abortion".)
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To: GraceG

Just today some young republicans leader came under fire for saying that tea partiers are senile drooling angry people.


75 posted on 02/26/2014 4:45:20 PM PST by cripplecreek (REMEMBER THE RIVER RAISIN!)
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To: ansel12

This is actually a very complex set of arguments with a very long history.

There are a lot of historical conservatisms. US conservatism of the present day is its own unique case, differing from much of the rest of the world. Russell Kirk’s “Conservative Mind” is a good place to start. The American uniqueness is the very subject of De Toqueville’s work.

Capitalism in fact was usually considered, in most religious traditions, including most of historical Christianity, as essentially godless and morally compromised.


76 posted on 02/26/2014 4:45:23 PM PST by buwaya
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To: elkfersupper

“Bite me.”

_________________________

Says the man with a command of the language. I hope you DON’T get zotted. Really. Clowns like you are fun to have around.


77 posted on 02/26/2014 4:46:49 PM PST by Responsibility2nd (NO LIBS. This Means Liberals and (L)libertarians! Same Thing. NO LIBS!!)
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To: skinkinthegrass

Thank you, friend.


78 posted on 02/26/2014 4:46:53 PM PST by TheOldLady
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To: elkfersupper

Wrong. Communism’s atheists have killed millions for not agreeing with them.


That’s because they were communists, not because they were atheists.


LOL, yeah right/s


79 posted on 02/26/2014 4:47:02 PM PST by RginTN
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To: cripplecreek

[ Just today some young republicans leader came under fire for saying that tea partiers are senile drooling angry people. ]

“senile drooling angry people” isn’t that a good description of Angry RINO John McCain?


80 posted on 02/26/2014 4:47:32 PM PST by GraceG
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