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Christian School Drops Nickname – Cites “Offensive” to Muslims
http://www.conservativeinfidel.com ^ | Wednesday, February 12th, 2014 | Rick Wells

Posted on 02/12/2014 9:14:01 PM PST by ATOMIC_PUNK

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To: vladimir998; metmom
>>Sure. Just as soon as you provide the sources for verification that in any way negate or refute anything I said.<<

Scripture. “Search the scriptures daily”! Paul’s writings became scripture per Peter.

101 posted on 02/16/2014 4:09:48 PM PST by CynicalBear (For I decided to know nothing among you except Jesus Christ)
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To: JLLH
Oh, good grief. Whatever. Baptists spread the word of God and contend for the faith just fine. It was a POPE who betrayed the Crusaders — the Knights Templar, by the way.

FWIW, as a Baptist I would never want to be identified as a "Crusader". We have always advanced the Word of God with words, not swords. Those who think they made Jesus proud by using weapons in His name will find out at the White Throne Judgement that they were never one of us.

102 posted on 02/16/2014 4:09:53 PM PST by wmfights
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To: Greetings_Puny_Humans

“LOL, keep saying it to yourself if it makes you feel any better.”

Well, you have yet to offer any evidence that he believed in a Protestant doctrine that wouldn’t exist for more than 1000 years after he died.

“Wow, you’re still on that? Didn’t I already respond to this?”

No, not really. It shows your argument makes no sense according to your own logic. You say Cyril believed in sola scriptura as you do or as Protestants do. Yet he believed in doctrines sola scripturists (all of whom are modern Protestants) refuse to believe in. Quite frankly that means your argument makes little or no sense.


103 posted on 02/16/2014 4:10:16 PM PST by vladimir998
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To: visualops
I have no idea what the Protestant attitude is about Crusaders or that they would necessarily want to disown them.

I'm not a Protestant, but as a Baptist I would not want to be associated with the name. We share The Gospel. We don't believe conversion can be accomplished at the end of a sword.

104 posted on 02/16/2014 4:14:18 PM PST by wmfights
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To: CynicalBear

” Paul’s writings became scripture per Peter.”

No, Paul’s writings were scripture because of where they came from (God) not because of Peter. Peter recognized they were scripture. The Jewish Bereans would not - until converted - believe Paul’s writings were scripture. And Paul had written very little at that point any way.

You can see this for yourself. Look at the left column here for Acts 17. Look at the middle column for “Galatians”: http://www.blueletterbible.org/study/paul/timeline.cfm I know timelines can differ because it’s largely guess work, but the idea is simple to understand. Paul wrote little or nothing before he dealt with the Bereans. He was explaining the Old Testament prophecies to them and they were checking the books (and their traditions about them as well since there were many) to see if he was right.


105 posted on 02/16/2014 4:15:44 PM PST by vladimir998
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To: vladimir998; metmom; JLLH
Well, you have yet to offer any evidence that he believed in a Protestant doctrine

See post # 74, and read BOTH quotations. And it's not a Protestant doctrine. It's a Christian doctrine.

No, not really. It shows your argument makes no sense according to your own logic.

See post #85 and actually respond to it instead of trolling me.

106 posted on 02/16/2014 4:23:36 PM PST by Greetings_Puny_Humans (I mostly come out at night... mostly.)
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To: vladimir998
>> No, Paul’s writings were scripture because of where they came from (God) not because of Peter.<<

Of course! Now you’re getting it. Just like we have scripture today because God gave them to us and not the Catholics. God can use anyone, even people who are in error or outright evil like Herrod or Judas. God did use Balaam’s donkey also didn’t He.

>> (and their traditions about them as well since there were many)<<

Nice try at “adding to scripture” but it doesn’t work. It does NOT say “searched the scriptures (and their traditions about them) daily”. See how Catholics always have to add things to make their beliefs work?

They just can't stand on God's word alone can they? It's a shame really.

107 posted on 02/16/2014 4:26:06 PM PST by CynicalBear (For I decided to know nothing among you except Jesus Christ)
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To: vladimir998
I spent years studying this stuff and I doubt that you have.

Pity you didn't use that valuable time studying the scriptures instead...

108 posted on 02/16/2014 4:28:09 PM PST by Iscool (Ya mess with me, you mess with the WHOLE trailer park...)
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To: Iscool

Oh, I did. That’s why it is so easy to see your errors.


109 posted on 02/16/2014 4:29:08 PM PST by vladimir998
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To: Greetings_Puny_Humans

No, sola scriptura is entirely a Protestant doctrine. The early Church fathers didn’t believe in it although modern Protestant apologists have produced several fanciful books claiming such.

“See post #85 and actually respond to it instead of trolling me.”

No trolling involved, but I’m not beholden to you. I’ll do exactly as I please.


110 posted on 02/16/2014 4:31:17 PM PST by vladimir998
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To: vladimir998
"It was a POPE who betrayed the Crusaders — the Knights Templar, by the way"

Pity it couldn't share what chapter & verse in which it found that little gem

111 posted on 02/16/2014 4:32:01 PM PST by Hegewisch Dupa
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To: JLLH
The Canon of accepted Truths was NOT decided upon by Roman Catholicism, much as that denomination would love to claim credit. The Canon of accepted Scripture formed the early church/believers — not the other way around. The Canonical teachings were already in place and accepted by the early believers.

I understand you believe that premise by faith; I don't know what you use for historical evidence. The seven books from the Catholic Bible commonly called the Apochrypha aside, there is some historical evidence of debate as to which books from the NT era should be included. Disputed Books of the New Testament

We do know this, All scripture is given by inspiration of God, and is profitable for doctrine, for reproof, for correction, for instruction in righteousness:

112 posted on 02/16/2014 4:34:55 PM PST by af_vet_1981 (The bus came by and I got on, That's when it all began)
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To: af_vet_1981

http://www.bible-researcher.com/canon5.html


113 posted on 02/16/2014 4:36:19 PM PST by af_vet_1981 (The bus came by and I got on, That's when it all began)
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To: CynicalBear

“Just like we have scripture today because God gave them to us and not the Catholics.”

No. God sent the scriptures and the Catholic Church. They always go together. The point still stands - Paul was not using the New Testament because the Bereans didn’t have it, wouldn’t recognize it, and it had not been written yet.

“Nice try at “adding to scripture” but it doesn’t work. It does NOT say “searched the scriptures (and their traditions about them) daily”. See how Catholics always have to add things to make their beliefs work?”

I’m not adding anything. The Jews had traditions which they used to understand scripture and they had traditional understandings of scripture. Hence, Jesus could talk about Moses’ seat even though that appears no where in scripture but where Jesus mentions it in the gospels. Most likely Paul was talking to the Berean Jews about Jesus’ Passion and Resurrection since that is a huge theme in Paul’s encounters with Jews in Acts and served as a stumbling block for Jews. He would have used Isaiah’s verses about the Suffering Servant to explain how Jesus’ Passion prove He is the Messiah rather than disprove Him as the Messiah.


114 posted on 02/16/2014 4:36:56 PM PST by vladimir998
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To: Hegewisch Dupa

You’re asking anti-Catholics for evidence of their bizarre views of Church History? You’ll be very disappointed!!!


115 posted on 02/16/2014 4:38:28 PM PST by vladimir998
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To: vladimir998

Ha! You are right on the money, sir!


116 posted on 02/16/2014 4:42:21 PM PST by Hegewisch Dupa
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To: Gene Eric
The Crusades were a minor response to Islamic aggression.

Exactly...

117 posted on 02/16/2014 4:44:26 PM PST by Popman ("Resistance to Tyrants is Obedience to God" - Thomas Jefferson)
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To: vladimir998
>> The Jews had traditions which they used to understand scripture and they had traditional understandings of scripture.<<

Yes they did. Just like Catholics. And the Jews denied Christ didn’t they. And the Catholics pervert scripture. Those “traditions” worked our reeeeeaaaaallll well for the Jews didn’t they!

>> Most likely<<

LOL Most likely? No wonder Catholics don’t like Sola Scripture. They have to rely on man’s wisdom of “most likely”.

You and you’re “most likely” and “it doesn’t say it didn’t happen” exegesis just doesn’t cut it with those seeking truth.

118 posted on 02/16/2014 4:45:30 PM PST by CynicalBear (For I decided to know nothing among you except Jesus Christ)
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To: vladimir998; metmom; JLLH
"No, sola scriptura is entirely a Protestant doctrine. The early Church fathers didn’t believe in it although modern Protestant apologists have produced several fanciful books claiming such."

YAWN

Here, have a pagan idol on a Catholic altar in front of Pope John Paul II as my official reply:


119 posted on 02/16/2014 4:53:12 PM PST by Greetings_Puny_Humans (I mostly come out at night... mostly.)
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To: vladimir998
Mark 16:16 - Jesus says to the crowd, "He who believes and is baptized will be saved." But in reference to the same people, Jesus immediately follows with "He who does not believe will be condemned." This demonstrates that one can be baptized and still not be a believer. This disproves the Protestant argument that one must be a believer to be baptized. There is nothing in the Bible about a "believer's baptism."

I had to pull this one out of your link because this is one of the most ridiculous...

"He who does not believe will be condemned." This demonstrates that one can be baptized and still not be a believer.

Yes it does...You can baptize all the muzlims and anyone else you want...But that person will be damned even if you hit him with a fire hose...

So your religion somehow twists and perverts this verse to mean babies then can be baptized because belief isn't required for baptism...

Belief + baptism = heaven...
Unbelief + baptism = hell...

What a whacko interpretation your religion has...

120 posted on 02/16/2014 4:53:57 PM PST by Iscool (Ya mess with me, you mess with the WHOLE trailer park...)
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