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To: CynicalBear

The problem with the writers line of reasoning is very typical of religious writers. He seems to be saying that if you don’t agree with the pre-trib viewpoint then a spiritual problem is evident. I have always wondered why so much emphasis is placed on this issue in some circles. Pre, post, mid, trib. God is not asking for my opinion. Seems much like sports fans who somehow think they can influence the outcome of a game by wearing lucky clothes, or in the case of my daughter, she is convinced that recording her favorite team’s game will result in a loss. God doesn’t need my approval or my correct opinion to act. It is what it is regardless of what i think or don’t think.

I never have understood the amount of hysteria this subject generates. We are logs in a stream carried out to sea by multi millennial events. Why waste ink with sneering self importance when the outcome, whatever it is, is preordained? I don’t get it.


10 posted on 02/07/2014 6:30:29 AM PST by DariusBane (Liberty and Risk. Flip sides of the same coin. So how much risk will YOU accept?)
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To: DariusBane

Then I would suppose this article is of no interest to you.


14 posted on 02/07/2014 6:36:49 AM PST by CynicalBear (For I decided to know nothing among you except Jesus Christ)
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To: DariusBane; All

If I simply look at the word and it meanings, I note that a Catching up of the saints is going to happen sometime. There has been a recent disagreement as to whether the “falling away” as depicted in Thessalonians meant a world falling away and becoming more lawless or whether the term from the Greek means a ‘catching up’ of Saints prior to the revelation of the “son of perdition”. ( Contextual comparisons with other scriptures and looking at what Christ said about the ‘last days’ suggest that a general collapse of all standards and the growth of utter depraved lawlessness prior to the revelation of the Son of Perdition should be what the term ‘falling away’ is describing)

I know that the last days will be like the Days of Noah because that is also going to be when the Son of Man comes.

Revelation speaks of a lot of Saints being killed by their refusal to take part in the beast System(Beast, false prophet, image of beast and their forced worship of same/taking of mark as well).

Christ has said the timing for his coming is kept secret, though he does give up hints as to about the time we should expect him.

We know that certain parts of the God’s word and revelation as stated in Daniel and Revelation are kept “sealed” until the latter days. So there are still some surprises in store for the saints living in these latter days.

We see that Israel is a nation, when for centuries many “scoffed” that such a thing could ever happen again.

I also read that “we shall not all sleep, but we shall all be changed. In a moment, in a twinkling of an eye, at the Last Trumpet”. I read the “Dead in Christ shall rise first, and then the rest of us will be caught up to meet him in the middle of the air, and there we will be, forever with him”.

What I don’t read is an exact timelime, and I suspect this is deliberate. Not just to cloud Satan’s plans, but to test his Saints. Will we be ready and watching, will the “son of Man, when coming, find faith upon the Earth?”

So I don’t deny the rapture, I don’t deny that it might or might not be a pretrib, post trib, mid trib or any kind of “trib’. But what ever “trib” it does happen with, I’m hoping for prime “rib” at the Feast of the Marriage supper of the Lamb! Praise the Lord! Amen!


30 posted on 02/07/2014 7:14:08 AM PST by mdmathis6 (American Christians can help America best by remembering that we are Heaven's citizens first!)
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