One wonders vlad, if "inconsistencies" seen in your posts also exist in your "research".
1/31/2014 11:00:49 AM · 167 of 209 Errant to vladimir998: The evils perpetrated by Catholic leaders throughout its history are documented facts, FRiend.
1/31/2014 3:47:31 PM · 172 of 209 vladimir998 to Errant: Leaders? Yes, some. Members? Yes, some. The Catholic Church? No. I don’t blame the Church for what some of its members did.
1/31/2014 9:50:57 PM · 186 of 209 Errant to vladimir998: Then again, this is nothing more than a distraction on your part in lieu of evidence proving your claim that the church played no part in the Inquisition.
1/31/2014 10:21:34 PM · 188 of 209 vladimir998 to Errant: And there we go. Show me where I ever claimed “the church played no part in the Inquisition.” I claimed no such thing.
1/31/2014 11:00:01 PM · 190 of 209 Errant to vladimir998: Oh, so now you are admitting the church DID play a role in the Inquisition?
[listens, nodding] ...wonders ... inconsistencies ...uh huh hey uh, hold on a sec, the last tune is winding down, gotta get another turnin' you know? can't be letting any "dead air" go out
[sound of rummaging] ..ah... here it is...it's been a little while, but it is most certainly on the playlist.
Without its *members* there would be no Catholic church.
The Catholic church IS its members. If the members are evil, the denomination is evil. The RCC (denomination) cannot exist outside for the people who make it up. Nor can any denomination.
“One wonders vlad, if “inconsistencies” seen in your posts also exist in your “research”.”
You posted a link to an article on the inquisition. The existence of the inquisitorial tribunals is not evidence of “evils perpetrated by Catholic leaders throughout its history”.
1) the existence of inquisitorial tribunals was generally brief, local, and sporadic. Thus there is no “throughout [the Church’s] history” involved.
2) the very existence of inquisitorial tribunals in no way indicates “evils perpetrated by Catholic leaders”.
I wrote: “Leaders? Yes, some. Members? Yes, some. The Catholic Church? No. I don’t blame the Church for what some of its members did.”
That is irrefutably true. A few individual members of the Church, are not the Church herself.
You wrote: “Then again, this is nothing more than a distraction on your part in lieu of evidence proving your claim that the church played no part in the Inquisition.”
And, of course, I never once claimed the Church “played no part in the Inquisition.” Anyone claiming I did such a thing is dishonest. Anti-Catholic bigots must resort to lying because the facts simply don’t support their claims.
I wrote: “And there we go. Show me where I ever claimed “the church played no part in the Inquisition.” I claimed no such thing.”
And I was 100% right. I never claimed any such thing. You will repeatedly fail - REPEATEDLY FAIL - to show otherwise.
You wrote: “Oh, so now you are admitting the church DID play a role in the Inquisition?”
I never denied. To see which one of us is being honest is easy enough:
Show me where I ever claimed “that the church played no part in the Inquisition.”
You will fail. Of course. It is guaranteed. Why? Because I never, ever, even once claimed any such thing. So, even though I already know you’ll fail, please post for me the exact post and post the exact quote where I said “the church played no part in the Inquisition.”