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To: CynicalBear
Yeah, just as I thought. In that statement there is absolutely no faith in God to preserve His word for us today. You have nothing to hold one to but fallible man’s words. Your words here are based on carnal man’s words and will end in destruction.

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>> It wasn’t the first time the reason for each dispensation was because the opposition got the Lord’s playbook and alter it!<<

Don’t be preposterous. The Jews meticulously maintained the scriptures of which there are copies today. If you don’t even believe the Hebrew and Greek copies of scripture we have available to us today are the inspired, infallible words of God you have nothing.

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I am sorry CB they are not the originals they are copies of copies.

For example when Jesus was discussing with the Pharisees and the Seduces and scribes both sect of the Jewish faith had different points of view on doctrine one believe in the resurrection and angel the other group did not.

So CB you dismiss this!

There was a period that temple was under the influence of the Hellenic philosophy and is why Jesus kick them out of the House of the Lord.

CB You deny this history

They were even arguing with Jesus about the Lord own doctrine, which they had no clue who they were talking too.

So the Pharasee, Suducese, and scribs did not argue with Jesus over doctrine which they between themselves could not agree on let of the Jesus the author, CB you deny this too

They were angry with him he was going to upset a good thing they had going.

We have read in a few places of Deuteronomy 4 and Rev. 22:18-19 Gal 1 isn’t about the LDS in 1800 Jesus was complaining to Paul at the time due to the climate they already Crucified the Lord what is going to stop them from perverting the word.

There were no warnings CB in Deut 4 or Rev 22

Yes the Word of God is inherit but what man does to something on a scroll or written in this kingdom is hard to hold on to.

Even the masses never laid eyes on the written word until the 1500’s

You believe we always has access to the scriptures or you truth those who had them did not tamper with them?

Good men have their flaws just think about those with their personal designs.

BTW just for good measure...

Where are the original manuscripts of the Bible located?

Though we do not have any originals, with such a wealth of documentation at our disposal with which to compare, we can delineate quite closely what those originals contained.

ORIGINAL MANUSCRIPTS OF THE BIBLE HAVE ALL PERISHED

Here we are back to square one and have to take the word of men will my faith in God edifying me, is a lot different than my relationship with truthing men with this project.

What I do know is that the Book of Mormon is Another witness for Jesus Christ, and testifies to many of the passages in the Bible and clears up the ambiguities, one is not left wondering how to interpret that passage. Because these are records of the Lord for these latter days to set things straight, and removed any stumbling blocks.

580 posted on 02/05/2014 9:04:46 PM PST by restornu (Love One Another)
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To: restornu

So you have been told by the demon led leadership of the LDS. It’s another gospel and it is considered accursed by the one true God.


583 posted on 02/05/2014 9:16:18 PM PST by CynicalBear (For I decided to know nothing among you except Jesus Christ)
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To: restornu; CynicalBear
I am sorry CB they are not the originals they are copies of copies.

And Mormonism is based on some alleged gold tablets found in Upstate NY that Smith *translated* and no longer exist because some angel (conveniently) took them back so there's no proof they EVER even existed in the first place.

How ironic to complain about copies of copies, which BTW, is what Mormonism is also forced into using if they do indeed use the Bible.

589 posted on 02/05/2014 9:25:30 PM PST by metmom (...fixing our eyes on Jesus, the Author and Perfecter of our faith....)
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To: restornu
What I do know is that the Book of Mormon is Another witness for Jesus Christ,

If you KNLOW this, then why have you not commented on the replies in this thread that PROVE otherwise?

631 posted on 02/06/2014 5:55:44 AM PST by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: restornu
No original copies? There are no original copies of Homer's Iliad or Odyssey. No original Aeneid of Virgil, or Tacitus’ Histories, Herodotus’ Histories. Yet what Historian tosses them because we have no original manuscripts? NONE! The copies are considered just as valid as the originals.

We do have a very ancient copy of Isaiah from the Dead Sea Scrolls which is exactly the same as the modern translations.

YOU also have THE ORIGINAL Book of Abraham! Let's see how it compares to Joseph Smith's “translation”!

Joseph Smith's fabrication...from the official LDS web page.
http://www.lds.org/scriptures/pgp/abr/1?lang=eng

1 In the land of the aChaldeans, at the residence of my fathers, I, bAbraham, saw that it was needful for me to obtain another place of cresidence;

2 And, finding there was greater ahappiness and peace and rest for me, I sought for the blessings of the fathers, and the right whereunto I should be ordained to administer the same; having been myself a follower of brighteousness, desiring also to be one who possessed great cknowledge, and to be a greater follower of righteousness, and to possess a greater knowledge, and to be a father of many dnations, a prince of peace, and edesiring to receive instructions, and to keep the commandments of God, I became a rightful heir, a fHigh Priest, holding the right belonging to the fathers.

3 It was aconferred upon me from the fathers; it came down from the fathers, from the beginning of time, yea, even from the beginning, or before the foundation of the earth, down to the present time, even the right of the bfirstborn, or the first man, who is cAdam, or first father, through the fathers unto me.

4 I sought for mine aappointment unto the Priesthood according to the appointment of God unto the bfathers concerning the seed.

5 My afathers, having turned from their righteousness, and from the holy commandments which the Lord their God had given unto them, unto the worshiping of the bgods of the cheathen, utterly refused to hearken to my voice;

NOW! From the REAL Book of Abraham, translated by REAL Egyptologists..

Verses 1-5

http://www.bookofabraham.com/boamathie/BOA_6.html

(I/1) [”Osiris, the god’s father], prophet of Amon-Re, King of the Gods, prophet of Min who slaughters his enemies, prophet of Khonsu, the [one who exercises] authority in Thebes,

(I/2) [. . .] . . . Hor, the justified, son of the similarly titled overseer of secrets and purifier of the god, Osorwer, the justified, born by the [housewife and sistrum-player of ]

(I/3) [Amon]-Re, Taikhibit, the justified! May your ba-spirit live among them, and may you be buried on the west [of Thebes].”

(I/4) [”O Anubis(?),51 . . .] justification(?).

(I/5) [May you give to him] a good and splendid burial on the west of Thebes as on the mountains of Ma[nu](?).”
[Osiris shall be towed in]to the great lake of Khonsu,
and likewise [the Osiris Hor, the justified,] born of Taikhibit, the justified,
after his two arms have been [placed] at his heart, while
the Breathing Document, being what
is written on its interior and exterior, shall be wrapped in royal linen and placed (under) his left arm in the midst of his heart. The remainder of his
wrapping shall be made over it. As for the one for whom this book is made,
he thus breathes like the ba-spirit[s] of the gods, forever and ever.

658 posted on 02/06/2014 7:57:14 AM PST by Ruy Dias de Bivar (Sometimes you need 7+ more ammo. LOTS MORE.)
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