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To: daniel1212

What happens to a minister who leaves his wife to remarry the wife of another member of the congregation, continues in the ministry, living off the donations of those who may not even be aware, with children from both families uprooted and devastated, not to mention others ? He preaches and teaches the gospel, including “eternal security” and is otherwise correct in all the standard doctrine (nonCatholic of course). What happens to him ? His repentance of that mortal sin (Catholic doctrine), if it occurred, didn’t require him to give up his ministry or his second wife (who betrayed her husband and children). Eternal security (and they are believers so don’t say they were never saved) ?


192 posted on 01/27/2014 8:38:36 PM PST by af_vet_1981 (The bus came by and I got on, That's when it all began,)
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To: af_vet_1981
What happens to him ? His repentance of that mortal sin (Catholic doctrine), if it occurred, didn’t require him to give up his ministry or his second wife (who betrayed her husband and children).

And has a TV show? If there was no real repentance then there is no real faith and no real salvation. If there was, and which includes restitution or the like as able, then that is a mark of true faith.

What about a man who commits adultery, then conspires to have the husband killed, but truly repents as soon as he is convicted of it?

198 posted on 01/27/2014 9:01:15 PM PST by daniel1212 (Come to the Lord Jesus as a contrite damned+destitute sinner, trust Him to save you, then live 4 Him)
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To: af_vet_1981

An interesting straw man to build there.


220 posted on 01/27/2014 10:46:49 PM PST by redleghunter
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To: af_vet_1981

If he really was a believer, the Holy Spirit will convict him. It may take longer that we would like, but God’s time is not our time. But convict He will! Just like the prodigal son, he never stopped being a son, but he had to eventually get up and return to his father’s house. Having gone through a similar experience with one of my children, I understand the father waiting (you cannot force your child to do the right thing) and the father’s continual love and looking forward to reuniting with his wayward child!


234 posted on 01/28/2014 7:11:58 AM PST by Former Fetus (Saved by grace through faith)
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