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To: .45 Long Colt

Every sin is NOT mortal......where do you learn such stuff?? Saying a white lie to your wife like you look BEAUTIFUL HONEY, when she doesn’t is NOT THA SEAME THING AS KILLING YOUR BABY!!!! Geesh...really....THINK MAN THINK for YOURSELF!!! OMG... A BAD THOUGHT is the same as LYNCHING AN INNOCENT PERSON??


10 posted on 01/27/2014 2:31:39 PM PST by Ann Archy (Abortion......the Human Sacrifice to the god of Convenience.)
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To: Ann Archy

hyperbole much?


12 posted on 01/27/2014 2:40:27 PM PST by Gamecock (If you like your constitution, you can keep your constitution. Period. (M.S.))
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To: Ann Archy; .45 Long Colt
Every sin is NOT mortal......where do you learn such stuff??

Perhaps not as the Catholic Church defines it. However, every sin is mortal because any sin -- at all -- denies us what God wants, which is to be saved and holy with him in Heaven. If all sin were not mortal, Christ wouldn't have come to Earth to save us from ALL of it (Hebrews 10:10).

God abhors all sin, and every sin, in equal measure. I rejoice that my Savior loves me enough to take all of it away.

17 posted on 01/27/2014 2:57:37 PM PST by Colonel_Flagg (Some people meet their heroes. I raised mine. Go Army.)
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To: Ann Archy

“A BAD THOUGHT is the same as LYNCHING AN INNOCENT PERSON??”

Actually it is according to Jesus. You need to read your Bible.


84 posted on 01/27/2014 4:57:07 PM PST by plain talk
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To: Ann Archy

“A BAD THOUGHT is the same as LYNCHING AN INNOCENT PERSON??”

Actually it can be ... according to Jesus.


105 posted on 01/27/2014 5:24:06 PM PST by plain talk
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To: Ann Archy; .45 Long Colt; metmom; Brian Kopp DPM; Former Fetus; Gamecock; Colonel_Flagg; ...
Every sin is NOT mortal......where do you learn such stuff??

I think what is being said is that even the smallest sin is mortal as it renders you a sinner, and thus in need of redemption on Christ's blood-expense and credit.

For whosoever shall keep the whole law, and yet offend in one point, he is guilty of all. (James 2:10)

If you want to show that there are differences in degrees of sin, then you need to be more familiar with Scripture. And therein we not only see different degrees of penalties for sins, but that punishment is relative to their degree of accountability. In the OT we see that such sins as idolatry and adultery were two of many capital crimes listed in Scripture, in contrast to others.

And likewise in the NT a man was not executed or delivered over to the devil because he had a quick temper, but for gross deceit and insolent denial of it in the light of great grace and light, (Acts 5) and for gross incest. (1Cor. 5)

And accountability is esp. the facor in the Lord's woes upon cities that had seen His mighty works, such as would have brought Sodom to repentance (but God owes no one grace, or more than others). (Mt. 11:20-24)

And thus at the great white throne judgment, the lost shall be judged according to their works, and as the scribes and Pharisees were more accountable, "therefore ye shall receive the greater damnation." (Mt. 23:14)

However, one who repents and casts all his faith in the risen Lord Jesus to save by His blood is washed, sanctified, and justified in the name of the Lord Jesus, and by the Spirit of our God. (1 Corinthians 6:11)

They are accepted in the Beloved, and are positionally seated in the heavenly places, (Eph. 1:6; 2:16). And thus all the verses which clearly speak of a N.T. believer's postmortem condition (Luke 23:43; Acts 7:59; 1Cor. 15:52; 2 Cor 5:8; Phil. 1:23; 1 Th 4:17; 1Jn. 3:2) show it is with the Lord, in whose presence there is fulness of joy (Ps. 16:11).

Rome's purgatory - which even most EOs reject as unhistorica - is simply not taught, and the verse out of which support for this tradition is extrapolated either refer to the lost, or to chastisement in this life. And it is in this life that growth in perfection is achieved, with all its temptations and trials, not simply suffering. Thus it was here that the Lord Himself was made "perfect," in the sense of "in all points tempted like as we are, yet without sin." (Heb. 4:15)

The reason Rome has purgatory is based upon a false premise, which is that justification is based upon interior holiness, thus in the salvation system of Rome an infant is sprinkled with water in recognition of proxy faith which makes him/her formally justified, and usually ends with becoming good enough to enter glory thru an indeterminate time suffering (and atoning for sins) in purgatory, commencing at death.

But (Romans 4:5) states "to him that worketh not, but believeth on him that justifieth the unGodly , his faith is counted for righteousness. And if imputed righteousness is that of a sudden interior holiness, then Abraham must have had a critical change of heart when his faith was counted for righteousness in Gn. 15:6.

When he later offered up Issac, he was justified by works in the sense of a faith in action testifying that he did believe.

The fact is that one must be holy to enter Heaven, but which is not practical sinless moral perfection - which is not even just sinlessness, but tested character as Christ, and not one has - but is the imputed righteousness of faith, yet a faith that effects holiness. But it is not holiness that makes one fit to enter glory, yet as character and works manifest faith, so one is counted worthy in the light of such manifest faith. (Rv. 3:4)

We either have this faith at death or we do not. Scripture offers no postmortem processing, but exhorts believers to keep the faith looking for the Lord's coming and being with Him.

That all true believers go to be with Lord without stopping in purgatory is illustrated by the fact that Paul - who confessed he had not yet arrived at perfection, (Phil. 3:12) not only taught that to depart to be with Christ was his option, (Phil. 1:23) but stated that all the Thessalonian believers would go to forerever be with the Lord if the Lord returned in their lifetime. (1Ths. 4:17) Likewise all the Corinthian believers. (1Cor. 15)

196 posted on 01/27/2014 8:55:02 PM PST by daniel1212 (Come to the Lord Jesus as a contrite damned+destitute sinner, trust Him to save you, then live 4 Him)
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