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To: metmom
Just what are those traditions Paul was referring to that he handed down that we are to keep that were not included in Scripture? How do you know? How do you know they’re from the apostles, Paul in particular? How do you know they’ve been passed down faithfully? What is your source for verifying all of the above?

The Church teaches us, because it is "the pillar and foundation of truth." "If he will not listen to the church, treat him as a pagan or tax collector."

Do you doubt Jesus? Do you doubt His Church?

This is what the Church teaches about Sacred Tradition.

How do you know if the Letters of St. Paul were written by St. Paul? Were you there when he wrote them? Or do you trust the Church that preserved and canonized them? How do you know that they were faithfully re-copied? Why do you trust Luther's canon of Scripture? Was he around when the books of the Bible were written?

If you reject the Authority of the Church, you reject Scripture, because the Church wrote, preserved and canonized Scripture. If the Church is fallible, then the Bible can be errant.

R.C. Sproul recognized this dilemma, to some degree, when he called the Bible "a fallible collection of infallible books."

70 posted on 01/25/2014 9:57:28 AM PST by St_Thomas_Aquinas ( Isaiah 22:22, Matthew 16:19, Revelation 3:7)
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To: St_Thomas_Aquinas

I doubt the claims made by the Roman Catholic church, or ANY organization that sets itself up as the only way to God.

No, I don’t doubt after all. I completely disbelieeve those spurious claims.


73 posted on 01/25/2014 9:59:08 AM PST by metmom (...fixing our eyes on Jesus, the Author and Perfecter of our faith....)
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To: St_Thomas_Aquinas; metmom
>>If you reject the Authority of the Church, you reject Scripture, because the Church wrote, preserved and canonized Scripture.<<

What Catholics need to understand just as many who are not Catholic do is that God used Judas, Balaam’s donkey, and many apostate and evil people to fulfill His purposes. The fact that God used them doesn’t make them good.

82 posted on 01/25/2014 10:25:16 AM PST by CynicalBear (For I decided to know nothing among you except Jesus Christ)
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To: St_Thomas_Aquinas
This is what the Church teaches about Sacred Tradition.

OOOooooh!

MORMONs gots some SACRED ritual; too!

(It looks mighty similar to MASONic ritual...)

117 posted on 01/25/2014 11:25:42 AM PST by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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