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Sola Scriptura – An Unbiblical Recipe for Confusion
Tim Staples' Blog ^ | January 18, 2014 | Tim Staples

Posted on 01/25/2014 6:51:38 AM PST by GonzoII

Sola Scriptura – An Unbiblical Recipe for Confusion

Sola scriptura was the central doctrine and foundation for all I believed when I was Protestant. On a popular level, it simply meant, “If a teaching isn’t explicit in the Bible, then we don’t accept it as doctrine!” And it seemed so simple. And yet, I do not recall ever hearing a detailed teaching explicating it. It was always a given. Unchallenged. Diving deeper into its meaning, especially when I was challenged to defend my Protestant faith against Catholicism, I found there to be no book specifically on the topic and no uniform understanding of this teaching among Protestant pastors.

Once I got past the superficial, I had to try to answer real questions like, what role does tradition play? How explicit does a doctrine have to be in Scripture before it can be called doctrine? How many times does it have to be mentioned in Scripture before it would be dogmatic? Where does Scripture tell us what is absolutely essential for us to believe as Christians? How do we know what the canon of Scripture is using the principle of sola scriptura? Who is authorized to write Scripture in the first place? When was the canon closed? Or, the best question of all: where is sola scriptura taught in the Bible? These questions and more were left virtually unanswered or left to the varying opinions of various Bible teachers.

The Protestant Response

In answer to this last question, “Where is sola scriptura taught in the Bible?” most Protestants will immediately respond as I did, by simply citing II Tm. 3:16:

All scripture is inspired by God and profitable for teaching, for reproof, for correction, and for training in righteousness, that the man of God may be complete, equipped for every good work.

“How can it get any plainer than that? Doesn’t that say the Bible is all we need?” Question answered.

The fact is: II Timothy 3—or any other text of Scripture—does not even hint at sola scriptura. It says Scripture is inspired and necessary to equip “the man of God,” but never does it say Scripture alone is all anyone needs. We’ll come back to this text in particular later. But in my experience as a Protestant, it was my attempt to defend this bedrock teaching of Protestantism that led me to conclude: sola scriptura is 1) unreasonable 2) unbiblical and 3) unworkable.

Sola Scriptura is Unreasonable

When defending sola scriptura, the Protestant will predictably appeal to his sole authority—Scripture. This is a textbook example of the logical fallacy of circular reasoning which betrays an essential problem with the doctrine itself. One cannot prove the inspiration of a text from the text itself. The Book of Mormon, the Hindu Vedas, writings of Mary Baker Eddy, the Koran, and other books claim inspiration. This does not make them inspired. One must prove the point outside of the text itself to avoid the fallacy of circular reasoning.

Thus, the question remains: how do we know the various books of the Bible are inspired and therefore canonical? And remember: the Protestant must use the principle of sola scriptura in the process.

II Tim. 3:16 is not a valid response to the question. The problems are manifold. Beyond the fact of circular reasoning, for example, I would point out the fact that this verse says all Scripture is inspired tells us nothing of what the canon consists. Just recently, I was speaking with a Protestant inquirer about this issue and he saw my point. He then said words to the effect of, “I believe the Holy Spirit guides us into all truth as Jesus said in Jn. 16:13. The Holy Spirit guided the early Christians and helped them to gather the canon of Scripture and declare it to be the inspired word of God. God would not leave us without his word to guide us.”

That answer is much more Catholic than Protestant! Yes, Jn. 16:13 does say the Spirit will lead the apostles—and by allusion, the Church—into all truth. But this verse has nothing to say about sola scriptura. Nor does it say a word about the nature or number of books in the canon. Catholics certainly agree that the Holy Spirit guided the early Christians to canonize the Scriptures because the Catholic Church teaches that there is an authoritative Church guided by the Holy Spirit. The obvious problem is my Protestant friend did not use sola scriptura as his guiding principle to arrive at his conclusion. How does, for example, Jn. 16:13 tell us that Hebrews was written by an apostolic writer and that it is inspired of God? We would ultimately have to rely on the infallibility of whoever “the Holy Spirit” is guiding to canonize the Bible so that they could not mishear what the Spirit was saying about which books of the Bible are truly inspired.

The fact is, the Bible does not and cannot give us the answer to this question about the canon. It is an historical fact that the Church used Sacred Tradition outside of Scripture for her criterion for the canon. And the early Christians, many of whom disagreed on the issue of the canon, also needed the Church in council to give an authoritative decree on the whole matter.

In order to put this argument of my friend into perspective, can you imagine if a Catholic made a similar claim to demonstrate, say, Mary to be the Mother of God? “We believe the Holy Spirit guides us into all truth and guided the early Christians to declare this truth.” Would the Protestant respond with a hearty, amen? I think not! I can almost hear the response. “Show me in the Bible where Mary is the Mother of God! I don’t want to hear about God guiding the Church!” Wouldn’t the same question remain for the Protestant concerning the canon? “Show me in the Bible where the canon of Scripture is, what the criterion for the canon is, who can and cannot write Scripture, etc.”

Will the Circle be Unbroken?

The Protestant response at this point is often an attempt to use the same argument against the Catholic. “How do you know the Scriptures are inspired? Your reasoning is just as circular because you say the Church is infallible because the inspired Scriptures say so and then say the Scriptures are inspired and infallible because the Church says so!”

The Catholic Church’s position on inspiration is not circular. We do not say “the Church is infallible because the inspired Scriptures say so.” The Church was established historically and functioned as the infallible spokesperson for the Lord decades before the New Testament was written. The Church is infallible because Jesus said so. However, it is true that we know the Scriptures to be inspired because the Church has told us so. That is also an historical fact. However, this is not circular reasoning. When the Catholic approaches Scripture, he or she begins with the Bible as an historical document, not as inspired. As any reputable historian will tell you, the New Testament is the most accurate and verifiable historical document in all of ancient history. To deny the substance of the historical documents recorded therein would be absurd. However, one cannot deduce from this that they are inspired. There are many accurate historical documents that are not inspired. However, the Scriptures do give us accurate historical information whether one holds to their inspiration or not. Further, this testimony of the Bible is backed up by hundreds of works by early Christians and non-Christian writers like Suetonius, Tacitus, Pliny the Younger, Josephus, and more. It is on this basis that we can say it is an historical fact that Jesus lived, died and was reported to be resurrected from the dead by over 500 eyewitnesses. Many of these eyewitnesses went to their deaths testifying to the veracity of the Christ-event (see Lk. 1:1-4, Jn. 21:18-19, 24-25, Acts 1:1-11, I Cr. 15:1-8).

Now, what do we find when we examine the historical record? Jesus Christ—as a matter of history–established a Church, not a book, to be the foundation of the Christian Faith (see Mt. 16:15-18; 18:15-18. Cf. Eph. 2:20; 3:10,20-21; 4:11-15; I Tm. 3:15; Hb. 13:7,17, etc.). He said of his Church “He who hears you hears me and he who rejects you rejects me, and he who rejects me rejects him who sent me” (Lk. 10:16). The many books that comprise what we call the Bible never tell us crucial truths such as the fact that they are inspired, who can and cannot be the human authors of them, who authored them at all, or, as I said before, what the canon of Scripture is in the first place. And this is just to name a few examples. What is very clear historically is that Jesus established a kingdom with a hierarchy and authority to speak for him (see Lk. 20:29-32, Mt. 10:40, 28:18-20). It was members of this Kingdom—the Church—that would write the Scripture, preserve its many texts and eventually canonize it. The Scriptures cannot write or canonize themselves. To put it simply, reason clearly rejects sola scriptura as a self-refuting principle because one cannot determine what the “scriptura” is using the principle of sola scriptura.

Sola Scriptura is Unbiblical

Let us now consider the most common text used by Protestants to “prove” sola scriptura, II Tm. 3:16, which I quoted above:

All scripture is inspired by God and profitable for teaching, for reproof, for correction, and for training in righteousness, that the man of God may be complete, equipped for every good work.

The problem with using this text as such is threefold: 1. Strictly speaking, it does not speak of the New Testament at all. 2. It does not claim Scripture to be the sole rule of faith for Christians. 3. The Bible teaches oral Tradition to be on a par with and just as necessary as the written Tradition, or Scripture.

1. What’s Old is Not New

Let us examine the context of the passage by reading the two preceding verses:

But as for you, continue in what you have learned and have firmly believed, knowing from whom you learned it and how from childhood (italics added) you have been acquainted with the sacred writings which are able to instruct you for salvation through faith in Jesus Christ.

In context, this passage does not refer to the New Testament at all. None of the New Testament books had been written when St. Timothy was a child! To claim this verse in order to authenticate a book, say, the book of Revelation, when it had most likely not even been written yet, is more than a stretch. That is going far beyond what the text actually claims.

2. The Trouble With Sola

As a Protestant, I was guilty of seeing more than one sola in Scripture that simply did not exist. The Bible clearly teaches justification by faith. And we Catholics believe it. However, we do not believe in justification by faith alone because, among many other reasons, the Bible says, we are “justified by works and not by faith alone” (James 2:24, emphasis added). Analogously, when the Bible says Scripture is inspired and profitable for “the man of God,” to be “equipped for every good work,” we Catholics believe it. However, the text of II Tim. 3:16 never says Scripture alone. There is no sola to be found here either! Even if we granted II Tm. 3:16 was talking about all of Scripture, it never claims Scripture to be the sole rule of faith. A rule of faith, to be sure! But not the sole rule of faith.

James 1:4 illustrates clearly the problem with Protestant exegesis of II Tim. 3:16:

And let steadfastness (patience) have its full effect, that you may be perfect and complete, lacking in nothing.

If we apply the same principle of exegesis to this text that the Protestant does to II Tm. 3:16 we would have to say that all we need is patience to be perfected. We don’t need faith, hope, charity, the Church, baptism, etc.

Of course, any Christian would immediately say this is absurd. And of course it is. But James’ emphasis on the central importance of patience is even stronger than St. Paul’s emphasis on Scripture. The key is to see that there is not a sola to be found in either text. Sola patientia would be just as much an error as is sola scriptura.

3. Traditions of Men Vs. The Tradition of God

Not only is the Bible silent when it comes to sola scriptura, but Scripture is remarkably plain in teaching oral Tradition to be just as much the word of God as is Scripture. In what most scholars believe was the first book written in the New Testament, St. Paul said:

And we also thank God… that when you received the word of God which you heard from us, you accepted it not as the word of men but as what it really is, the word of God… (I Thess. 2:13)

According to St. Paul, the spoken word from the apostles was just as much the word of God as was the later written word. Further, when St. Paul wrote II Thessalonians, he urged the Christians there to receive both the oral and written Traditions as equally authoritative. This would be expected because both are referred to as the word of God.

So, then, brethren stand firm and hold to the traditions which you were taught by us, either by word of mouth or by letter (II Thess. 2:15).

A common problem among Protestants at this point is a matter of semantics. “Tradition” is often viewed in a negative light because of Jesus’ condemnation of “the tradition of men” in Mark 7:8.

You leave the commandment of God, and hold fast the tradition of men.

Notice, this verse makes very clear what kind of tradition it was that Jesus condemned. Jesus condemned the tradition of men, not all tradition. And obviously so; otherwise, you would have Jesus contradicting St. Paul. In fact, you would have Jesus contradicting himself in Matthew 23:2-3:

The scribes and Pharisees sit on Moses’ seat; so practice and observe whatever they tell you, but not what they do; for they preach, but do not practice.

Jesus both refers to an oral tradition—the chair of Moses—and commands the apostles to believe and obey it.

Sola Scriptura is Unworkable

When it comes to the tradition of Protestantism—sola scriptura—the silence of the text of Scripture is deafening. When it comes to the true authority of Scripture and Tradition, the Scriptures are clear. And when it comes to the teaching and governing authority of the Church, the biblical text is equally as clear:

If your brother sins against you go and tell him his fault, between you and him alone … But if he does not listen, take one or two others with you … If he refuses to listen … tell it to the church; and if he refuses to listen even to the church, let him be to you as a Gentile and a tax collector. (Mt. 18:15-17)

According to Scripture, the Church—not the Bible alone—is the final court of appeal for the people of God in matters of faith and discipline. But isn’t it also telling that since the Reformation of just ca. 480 years ago—a reformation claiming sola scriptura as its formal principle—there are now over 33,000 denominations that have derived from it?

For 1,500 years, Christianity saw just a few enduring schisms (the Monophysites, Nestorians, the Orthodox, and a very few others). Now in just 480 years we have this? I hardly think that when Jesus prophesied there would be “one shepherd and one fold” in Jn. 10:16, this is what he had in mind. It seems quite clear to me that not only is sola scriptura unreasonable and unbiblical, but it is unworkable. The proof is in the puddin’!

But Didn’t Jesus Himself Believe Sola Scriptura?

When the Devil tempted Jesus three times in Matthew 4, Jesus always responded with Scripture. In fact, with the second of the three temptations the Devil himself began with Scripture. As an aside, I would have to say that was not very smart of the Devil. If you are going to tempt the Word of God, do you really think you are going to outsmart the Word of God with the word of God?

At any rate, in Matt. 4:6, the Devil begins, “If you are the Son of God, throw yourself down [from the pinnacle of the Temple]; for it is written, ‘He will give his angels charge of you’ and ‘On their hands they will bear you up, lest you strike your foot against a stone’ (quoting Psalm 91:11-12).”

Jesus then responded with Scripture in Matt. 4:7, “Again it is written, ‘You shall not tempt the Lord your God’ (quoting Deut. 6:16).” Doesn’t this prove Jesus believed in sola scriptura?

Absolutely not!

Just because someone quotes Scripture as an authority, this does not mean he believes in sola scriptura. The Catholic Church quotes Scripture all the time and teaches that Scripture is the inerrant word of God. But what does that prove?

The key here is to understand Jesus not only quoted Scripture as authoritative, but he also referred to Tradition as authoritative in texts like Luke 16:22 (ever read anywhere of “Abraham’s Bosom” in the Old Testament? No, this was Jewish Tradition), Matt. 2:23 (Jesus refers to an Oral Tradition “spoken by the prophets” that is nowhere to be found in the Old Testament), and Matt. 23:1-3, which we saw above, where he speaks of the Tradition of “the chair of Moses”).

He also refers to his own authority when he says over and over, “You have heard it said,” and he often quotes Scripture immediately thereafter, but then he says, “But I say unto you…” He then either introduces new revelation or gives an authoritative interpretation of a biblical text (see Matt. 5:21-48) or, sometimes he simply gives an authoritative interpretation of what Scripture truly means, such as in Matt: 5:10-20.

So did Jesus Christ believe in sola scriptura? By no means! Neither should his Church. And while the Church cannot give new revelation as this ended with the death of the last apostolic man (and we know that because of, you guessed it, Tradition in order to understand texts of Scripture like Jude 3), the Church employs Scripture and Tradition just like her Lord, using her teaching authority she receives from her Lord (Matt. 18:15-18).

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To: Salvation
Why can’t the term “Catholic” suffice for all?

Because the RCC is one particular denomination of many within Catholicism.

81 posted on 01/25/2014 10:23:45 AM PST by Cvengr (Adversity in life and death is inevitable. Thru faith in Christ, stress is optional.)
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To: St_Thomas_Aquinas; metmom
>>If you reject the Authority of the Church, you reject Scripture, because the Church wrote, preserved and canonized Scripture.<<

What Catholics need to understand just as many who are not Catholic do is that God used Judas, Balaam’s donkey, and many apostate and evil people to fulfill His purposes. The fact that God used them doesn’t make them good.

82 posted on 01/25/2014 10:25:16 AM PST by CynicalBear (For I decided to know nothing among you except Jesus Christ)
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To: Kansas58

See my post 82.


83 posted on 01/25/2014 10:27:56 AM PST by CynicalBear (For I decided to know nothing among you except Jesus Christ)
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To: metmom

Good thing those stones didn’t start flying. After all as it was pointed out, it was lierally written that they should.


84 posted on 01/25/2014 10:30:33 AM PST by allendale
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To: GonzoII

For me, sola scripture comes down to the question, “Does God have feathers?”


85 posted on 01/25/2014 10:32:20 AM PST by Jim Noble (When strong, avoid them. Attack their weaknesses. Emerge to their surprise.)
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To: Kansas58

The claim was made of 30,000 different versions of the Bible in post 46.

I am still waiting, but not holding my breath, for substantiation of this.

Additionally, I would like substantiation that there are 30,000 different interpretations of the Bible. Which commentaries are those and where is the list?


86 posted on 01/25/2014 10:32:42 AM PST by metmom (...fixing our eyes on Jesus, the Author and Perfecter of our faith....)
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To: CynicalBear

You’d think but the irony of claiming they are Babylon and seeing what Scripture says about her is obviously lost on them.


87 posted on 01/25/2014 10:33:37 AM PST by metmom (...fixing our eyes on Jesus, the Author and Perfecter of our faith....)
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To: Cvengr
Because the RCC is one particular denomination of many within Catholicism.

There are various ancient Rites within the Catholic Church, including the Latin or Roman Rite, which is the predominant Rite in America.

The Rites vary in their methods of celebrating the sacraments, although the essence of the sacraments remains the same across all Rites.

And all Rites are obedient to the pope and the Church Magisterium.

88 posted on 01/25/2014 10:35:10 AM PST by St_Thomas_Aquinas ( Isaiah 22:22, Matthew 16:19, Revelation 3:7)
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To: metmom
>> You’d think but the irony of claiming they are Babylon and seeing what Scripture says about her is obviously lost on them.<<

Something from scripture lost on a Catholic? I’m shocked! Shocked I tell ya!

89 posted on 01/25/2014 10:35:53 AM PST by CynicalBear (For I decided to know nothing among you except Jesus Christ)
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To: metmom

Every different denomination represents a DIFFERENT interpretation.
If not, why the need for a different denomination?
Again, try a little logic.
Do any of the 33,000 some odd “Protestant” denominations agree on everything?
If any two do agree, why do they not MERGE?
Because they DO NOT agree!


90 posted on 01/25/2014 10:36:36 AM PST by Kansas58
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To: CynicalBear
What Catholics need to understand just as many who are not Catholic do is that God used Judas, Balaam’s donkey, and many apostate and evil people to fulfill His purposes. The fact that God used them doesn’t make them good.

It doesn't make them right either.

Compiling the books of written Scripture together in one handy book was bound to happen eventually.

It's not a rocket science kind of decision that needed to be made. I'd say it was inevitable, really, and no credit goes to the one who did it first. They don't have a corner on the good ideas market nor does that give them any authority over it and its interpretation. All those claims following taking credit for it are a bid for a power grab.

The Catholic church wants to control everyone and will make any claims and use any means to justify it. History bears that out.

91 posted on 01/25/2014 10:38:18 AM PST by metmom (...fixing our eyes on Jesus, the Author and Perfecter of our faith....)
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To: metmom
The claim was made of 30,000 different versions of the Bible in post 46. I am still waiting, but not holding my breath, for substantiation of this.

When you get right down to it, isn't each man his own denomination? Does any Protestant Church claim infallible teaching authority, or do Protestants only recognize Luther's Bible as the sole rule of faith?

The only possible exception that I can think of is the Episcopalian Church.

92 posted on 01/25/2014 10:41:39 AM PST by St_Thomas_Aquinas ( Isaiah 22:22, Matthew 16:19, Revelation 3:7)
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To: Kansas58
Every different denomination represents a DIFFERENT interpretation.

Prove it.

If not, why the need for a different denomination?

Geography? Maybe because not everyone can go to the same church across the country every Sunday and not everyone would fit in the building anyway? People tend to pick local assemblies.

Do any of the 33,000 some odd “Protestant” denominations agree on everything?

No, and they don't need to. There are issues that are not salvific in nature.

Do all Catholic rites agree on everything?

If Catholic rites have leeway to disagree, then why do Catholics hypocritially demand that all non-Catholic churches agree on everything and hold non-Catholics to standards they don't even hold themselves to?

If any two do agree, why do they not MERGE? Because they DO NOT agree!

Because they don't want to. Is there a problem with that?

93 posted on 01/25/2014 10:46:02 AM PST by metmom (...fixing our eyes on Jesus, the Author and Perfecter of our faith....)
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To: metmom

“You’d think but the irony of claiming they are Babylon and seeing what Scripture says about her is obviously lost on them.”

Not at all, for YOU were predicted in the Old Testament.

The 33,000 Protestant Denominations are foretold and represented well in the Tower of Babel.

Protestants tend to have a hard time with Biblical metaphor. The written word is often art and poetry and symbolic. It is often not intended to be taken literally. Also, God shows us human characters in the Bible who make human mistakes but are still God’s chosen or his Apostolic Ministers.

To those who object to statues, Most of the early Church was ILLITERATE and a picture, or a statue, says 1,000 words. To object to telling a story through pictures or statues is absurd, but then Martin Luther objected to the Book of James too, so even Protestants must admit that Luther was not infallible huh? Luther had some good points, and the Catholic Church of his day was corrupt, but some Protestants forget that Luther was first CATHOLIC and owed HIS OWN basic faith to the Catholic Church.

Now my point is that the written word is also art at times. The ignorant have a hard time interpreting art. Art requires context and an understanding of history and metaphor and suggestion.

The Bible is actually the finest piece of written art in history.

That does not mean I think it is false, it means that I think many arrogant ignorant people will try to misuse words that have more than one, obvious meaning.

Look to the sublime. Look to the metaphors. Look at context.

The TRADITION of the Catholic Church helps us with the art of that day.


94 posted on 01/25/2014 10:47:28 AM PST by Kansas58
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To: St_Thomas_Aquinas
When you get right down to it, isn't each man his own denomination?

Just the same as each Catholic being his own rite. There is plenty of disagreement even on this forum between Catholics on different issues.

Does any Protestant Church claim infallible teaching authority, or do Protestants only recognize Luther's Bible as the sole rule of faith?

There is no such thing as *Luther's Bible*. And even if there was, it was written in German. I use English.

And for about the bazilliointh time, I do not care what Luther had to say about anything. I don't follow Luther. I don't follow men as Catholics do with their pope.

Scripture is the final authority on anything and Jesus Himself when tempted by Satan in the desert retorted with *It is WRITTEN..*

Scripture alone is sufficient for Jesus, it's sufficient for me.

95 posted on 01/25/2014 10:50:20 AM PST by metmom (...fixing our eyes on Jesus, the Author and Perfecter of our faith....)
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To: Kansas58
Just what are those traditions?

How do you know?

How do you know they’re from the apostles?

How do you know they’ve been passed down faithfully?

What is your source for verifying all of the above?

Please provide the sources for verification purposes.

96 posted on 01/25/2014 10:51:49 AM PST by metmom (...fixing our eyes on Jesus, the Author and Perfecter of our faith....)
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To: metmom
Every question you just asked can also be applied, without revision, to the scriptures.

Sources please.

97 posted on 01/25/2014 10:56:19 AM PST by Wyrd bið ful aræd (Also the defacto Leader of the FR Calvinist Protestant Brigades)
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To: St_Thomas_Aquinas

Then there are as many denominations are there are Protestants?

My posting that there are 30,000+ interpretations is thus correct.

Why would one be satisfied with just one overriding principle, one of my profs told us, when two, three or more would be even better? He was teaching engineering principles and was obviously joshing, so that josh may not carry over to philosophy or theology. Theology ain’t science - just ask Galileo.

One truth, though, would be very satisfying.


98 posted on 01/25/2014 10:58:15 AM PST by NutmegDevil
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To: metmom
Huh?
Geography?
Really?
Of the top 50 denominations in size, there are representatives of nearly every American Christian Denomination in nearly every country of the world.

The Tower of Babble was indeed about communication. And the communication of FAITH is the most important form of communication, would you not agree?

And the Protestant Faiths can't agree on much of anything.

Of course, this is why Protestants need 33,000 denominations. And the CATHOLIC faith is the SAME as far as DOCTRINE everywhere in the world. Different “rites” only practice Mass a bit differently.

The Catholic Faith has survived over 2000 years. The Orthodox Faith is nearly identical to the Catholic Faith and it, too, has survived intact.

But the Protestant Faith is a comprised of many good people who argue about silly things, and do not understand each other. They “babble”

There is a need for authority.

I am a Catholic who often objects to Catholic authorities but I am allowed to do so, to a point, and remain Catholic.

What does it REALLY mean to be a Protestant? Other than taking shots at the Catholic Church, which PRODUCED the first Bible and kept the Faith secure until Martin Luther, the Book of James hating anti-Semite, what do you have?

99 posted on 01/25/2014 11:00:33 AM PST by Kansas58
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To: GonzoII
Sola Scriptura – An Unbiblical Recipe for Confusion

Confused?

Who??

Ain't NONE of US CONFUSED!!!



Pope Stephen VI (896–897), who had his predecessor Pope Formosus exhumed, tried, de-fingered, briefly reburied, and thrown in the Tiber.[1]

Pope John XII (955–964), who gave land to a mistress, murdered several people, and was killed by a man who caught him in bed with his wife.

Pope Benedict IX (1032–1044, 1045, 1047–1048), who "sold" the Papacy

Pope Boniface VIII (1294–1303), who is lampooned in Dante's Divine Comedy

Pope Urban VI (1378–1389), who complained that he did not hear enough screaming when Cardinals who had conspired against him were tortured.[2]

Pope Alexander VI (1492–1503), a Borgia, who was guilty of nepotism and whose unattended corpse swelled until it could barely fit in a coffin.[3]

Pope Leo X (1513–1521), a spendthrift member of the Medici family who once spent 1/7 of his predecessors' reserves on a single ceremony[4]

Pope Clement VII (1523–1534), also a Medici, whose power-politicking with France, Spain, and Germany got Rome sacked.

 

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Bad_Popes

100 posted on 01/25/2014 11:07:05 AM PST by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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