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To: HarleyD

If you have never known Christ, but have lived a Godly live, as stated in the beatitutes, there is a chance you can enter the Kingdom of Heaven. In the end only God knows who will make the cut. Why in that so hard for protestants to understand? Did all the people that lived before Abraham go to hell when they died? Do all buddists go to hell that are totally ignorant of the Christian faith? All the hindus, all the muslims? If a Christian or any other faith is exposed to Christianity and willfully rejects Jesus Christ, he’s on a fast train to hell. Pretty cut and dry.


333 posted on 01/24/2014 5:13:56 PM PST by NKP_Vet ("We hang the petty thieves and appoint the great ones to public office" ~ Aesop)
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To: NKP_Vet; HarleyD
If you have never known Christ, but have lived a Godly live, as stated in the beatitutes, there is a chance you can enter the Kingdom of Heaven.

No, because Christ raised the bar higher than ever with the Beatitudes. If no one could be saved by keeping the letter of the Law, then certainly no one could ever be saved keeping the INTENT of the Law.

God's standard is absolute perfection. ONE sin is all that it takes to condemn someone.

Even if someone kept the Law and lived a perfect life except for ONE sin, they would still be condemned.

James 2:8-11 If you really fulfill the royal law according to the Scripture, “You shall love your neighbor as yourself,” you are doing well. But if you show partiality, you are committing sin and are convicted by the law as transgressors. For whoever keeps the whole law but fails in one point has become accountable for all of it. For he who said, “Do not commit adultery,” also said, “Do not murder.” If you do not commit adultery but do murder, you have become a transgressor of the law.

335 posted on 01/24/2014 5:27:00 PM PST by metmom (...fixing our eyes on Jesus, the Author and Perfecter of our faith....)
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To: NKP_Vet; HarleyD
Acts 4:12 Nor is there salvation in any other, for there is no other name under heaven given among men by which we must be saved.”

John 3:18 He that believeth on him is not condemned: but he that believeth not is condemned already, because he hath not believed in the name of the only begotten Son of God.

336 posted on 01/24/2014 5:30:59 PM PST by CynicalBear (For I decided to know nothing among you except Jesus Christ)
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To: NKP_Vet

This logic is nothing more than Socinianism and what is being denied is the atonement of Christ. I have posted an article to help you in straightening out your theology.


337 posted on 01/24/2014 5:38:51 PM PST by HarleyD (...one of his disciples, whom Jesus loved.)
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To: NKP_Vet

Well if someone perfectly follows the Law then sure I think they get in the Kingdom. But only One has ever done so, and that would be Jesus Christ. As He said:

Matthew 5:48 KJV

Be ye therefore perfect, even as your Father which is in heaven is perfect.

What Muslim or even Christian can claim the above? Not even Mother Teresa would have claimed perfection. We are humble for a reason...We will never be able to follow the Law perfectly for salvation. And the Law was never intended as a vehicle for salvation. That leaves us one conclusion..


415 posted on 01/24/2014 10:20:01 PM PST by redleghunter
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