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To: redleghunter

“Perhaps you are Mountain Dew and I am Dr. Pepper. You fizz with the hermeneutic of church and tradition and I fizz with the hermeneutic of Gospel. You believe salvation comes from the church, where I believe salvation comes from the Gospel.”

Salvation comes from Christ. Christ uses the Church to give grace to us. You can’t have the gospel without the Church, and you can’t have the Church without the gospel. They always go together.


296 posted on 01/24/2014 2:43:58 PM PST by vladimir998
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To: vladimir998
Christ uses the Church to give grace to us.

You can’t have the gospel without the Church

It's not polite to make stuff up...Plus, it makes God angry...

2Ti 1:9 Who hath saved us, and called us with an holy calling, not according to our works, but according to his own purpose and grace, which was given us in Christ Jesus before the world began,

The church is the result of preaching the gospel...The church receives grace...The church can not give grace...

397 posted on 01/24/2014 9:03:19 PM PST by Iscool
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To: vladimir998

“Salvation comes from Christ. Christ uses the Church to give grace to us. You can’t have the gospel without the Church, and you can’t have the Church without the gospel. They always go together.”

I am sure that is firmly rooted in the catechism, but not the Holy Scriptures. Please point out where in the doctrines of the NT (for example Romans) it is asserted the church is a vehicle for giving grace to believers.

No doubt the mission of the church and all its members is to proclaim and preach the gospel. That is our Great Commission.


398 posted on 01/24/2014 9:03:36 PM PST by redleghunter
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