Posted on 01/23/2014 9:29:40 PM PST by NKP_Vet
1. Best One-Sentence Summary: I am convinced that the Catholic Church conforms much more closely to all of the biblical data, offers the only coherent view of the history of Christianity (i.e., Christian, apostolic Tradition), and possesses the most profound and sublime Christian morality, spirituality, social ethic, and philosophy.
2. Alternate: I am a Catholic because I sincerely believe, by virtue of much cumulative evidence, that Catholicism is true, and that the Catholic Church is the visible Church divinely-established by our Lord Jesus, against which the gates of hell cannot and will not prevail (Mt 16:18), thereby possessing an authority to which I feel bound in Christian duty to submit.
3. 2nd Alternate: I left Protestantism because it was seriously deficient in its interpretation of the Bible (e.g., "faith alone" and many other "Catholic" doctrines - see evidences below), inconsistently selective in its espousal of various Catholic Traditions (e.g., the Canon of the Bible), inadequate in its ecclesiology, lacking a sensible view of Christian history (e.g., "Scripture alone"), compromised morally (e.g., contraception, divorce), and unbiblically schismatic, anarchical, and relativistic. I don't therefore believe that Protestantism is all bad (not by a long shot), but these are some of the major deficiencies I eventually saw as fatal to the "theory" of Protestantism, over against Catholicism. All Catholics must regard baptized, Nicene, Chalcedonian Protestants as Christians.
4. Catholicism isn't formally divided and sectarian (Jn 17:20-23; Rom 16:17; 1 Cor 1:10-13).
5. Catholic unity makes Christianity and Jesus more believable to the world (Jn 17:23).
6. Catholicism, because of its unified, complete, fully supernatural Christian vision, mitigates against secularization and humanism.
7. Catholicism avoids an unbiblical individualism which undermines Christian community (e.g., 1 Cor 12:25-26).
8. Catholicism avoids theological relativism, by means of dogmatic certainty and the centrality of the papacy.
(Excerpt) Read more at ourcatholicfaith.org ...
“You will begin to understand just how much Catholics and Mormons corrupt scripture.”
Ah yes, like claiming that Christmas, Easter and Lent are Christian? Or that Sunday is a day of worship? Odd stuff like that, right sweetie?
I never said I don’t “believe these are references to the Church, the Lamb’s Bride”.
Didja see the word "apparently?" No one said that, it was speculation. Thanks for clearing it up.
It’s amazing how anti-Catholics always resort to lying.
Where is that Catholic graphic so often spammed about Pot meet Kettle?
Oh here it is!
Seen that spam enough thanks
So, anti-Catholics really do believe that the real Church teaches that celebrating Easter and Christmas are pagan? My apologies.
My soul magnifies the Lord,
And my spirit rejoices in God my Savior.
For He has regarded the low estate of His handmaiden,
For behold, henceforth all generations shall call me blessed.
For He who is mighty has done great things for me, and holy is His name. And His mercy is on those who fear Him from generation to generation.
He has shown strength with His arm:
He has scattered the proud in the imagination of their hearts.
He has put down the mighty from their thrones,
and exalted those of low degree.
He has filled the hungry with good things;
and the rich He has sent empty away.
He has helped His servant Israel, in remembrance of His mercy;
As He spoke to our fathers, to Abraham and to His posterity forever.
Glory be to the Father and to the Son and to the Holy Spirit.
As it was in the beginning, is now and ever shall be, world without end. Amen
Magníficat ánima mea Dóminum,
et exsultávit spíritus meus
in Deo salvatóre meo,
quia respéxit humilitátem
ancíllæ suæ.
Ecce enim ex hoc beátam
me dicent omnes generatiónes,
quia fecit mihi magna,
qui potens est,
et sanctum nomen eius,
et misericórdia eius in progénies
et progénies timéntibus eum.
Fecit poténtiam in bráchio suo,
dispérsit supérbos mente cordis sui;
depósuit poténtes de sede
et exaltávit húmiles.
Esuriéntes implévit bonis
et dívites dimísit inánes.
Suscépit Ísrael púerum suum,
recordátus misericórdiæ,
sicut locútus est ad patres nostros,
Ábraham et sémini eius in sæcula.
Glória Patri et Fílio
et Spirítui Sancto.
Sicut erat in princípio,
et nunc et semper,
et in sæcula sæculórum.
Amen.
She became the Mother of God, in which work so many and such great good things are bestowed on her as pass man’s understanding. For on this there follows all honor, all blessedness, and her unique place in the whole of mankind, among which she has no equal, namely, that she had a child by the Father in heaven, and such a Child . . . Hence men have crowded all her glory into a single word, calling her the Mother of God . . . None can say of her nor announce to her greater things, even though he had as many tongues as the earth possesses flowers and blades of grass: the sky, stars; and the sea, grains of sand. It needs to be pondered in the heart what it means to be the Mother of God.
(Commentary on the Magnificat, 1521; in Luther’s Works, Pelikan et al, vol. 21, 326)
LOL them facts and scriptures are pretty cornfuzing to Catholics huh?
No, i cannot blame that on pasting the work of someone else. This is my stiff fingers and lack of proof reading late at night.
Nope, but the illiteracy certainly demonstrates that the poster had no clue what Scripture says.
Heretics, pagans and apostates rarely do.
When all else fails (facts and scripture socks-it-to-ya) send the SPAM!
Oh I could go on and on sweetie. I know you try so hard to be relevant. Bless your little heart.
There ya go trying to convince people of that pagan cannibalism again.
Thanks for the post, daniel.
Brought out the cricket/spam. Good work.
Them pesky facts and scriptures always causes those following deception to have the cat get their tongues...
>>>So, anti-Catholics really do believe that the real Church teaches that celebrating Easter and Christmas are pagan? My apologies.<<<
I don’t understand your question. Can you provide a little more background info?
Thanks
Philip
Got any comeback for your own belief systems guiding people off the path to God?
Did you see my post where I quoted popes saying that Mary brings salvation with no mention of Jesus?
Not THAT is sad!
...the poster had no clue what Scripture says.
So what? Tradition trumps scripture right?
Salvation comes through Mary, no need for Jesus.
If that works for you, fine with me...
Anyway, I am making a list of what might have been in the minds of the Catholic "Church" founders when they invented their doctrine. See if you think this could be a likely scenario:
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1. Christ said:
"And call no man your father upon the earth: for one is your Father, which is in heaven." (Mat 23:9)
The Catholic "Church" founders, after reading this verse, laughed, and said,
"Let's call all our priests "Father," and the head honcho, "Holy Father".
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2. Christ said:
"The scribes and the Pharisees sit in Moses' seat. . . But all their works they do for to be seen of men: they make broad their phylacteries, and enlarge the borders of their garments, And love the uppermost rooms at feasts, and the chief seats in the synagogues, And greetings in the markets, and to be called of men, Rabbi [Master], Rabbi [Master]. But be not ye called Rabbi [Master]: for one is your Master, even Christ; and all ye are brethren." (Matthew 23:2, 4-8)
And the Catholic founders laughed, and said,
"Lets give all our priests unique uniforms that are easily recognizable in the marketplace. Since they are always called "Father," that title, along with their dressy uniforms, will command respect, generate greetings, and provide them with better seats at feasts (and help generate more revenue.) The head honcho, our "Holy Father" (laughter,) will be clothed in all the splendour of the early Levitical High Priest, and then some."
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3. Christ said:
"Ye know that they which are accounted to rule over the Gentiles exercise lordship over them; and their great ones exercise authority upon them. But so shall it not be among you: but whosoever will be great among you, shall be your minister: And whosoever of you will be the chiefest, shall be servant of all. For even the Son of man came not to be ministered unto, but to minister, and to give his life a ransom for many." (Mark 10:42-45)
And the Catholic founders laughed, and said,
"Let us give our head honcho, our "Holy Father" (laughter,) all the power of a king within our "Church" (laughter,) and strive toward giving him power over the kings of the nations."
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4. Paul said:
"And having food and raiment let us be therewith content." (1 Tim 6:8)
The Catholic founders, laughing, said,
"Not us! We will ensure that we squeeze every last mite out of the sheep so our leadership can live in luxury, and so we can build outrageously tall and extravagant "cathedrals," even in small, poor communities.
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5. The Hebrews and Paul said, respectively:
"Marriage is honourable in all, and the bed undefiled . . ." (Heb 13:4)
". . . in the latter times some shall depart from the faith, giving heed to seducing spirits, and doctrines of devils; Speaking lies in hypocrisy; having their conscience seared with a hot iron; Forbidding to marry, and commanding to abstain from meats, which God hath created to be received with thanksgiving of them which believe and know the truth." (1 Tim 4:1-3)
The Catholic founders, laughing, said,
"This a good one. Let's forbid all the staff--men and women--to marry; and we will use that as a marketing tool to convince the sheep how great our sacrifices are to serve them (laughter.) And let's have a meat-free day, every week, say, on Friday. But in honor of our illustrious "saviour," fish will be allowed (laughter.)"
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6. James said:
"Confess your faults one to another, and pray one for another, that ye may be healed . . . " (Jam 5:16)
The Catholic founders, scheming, said,
"Wait! We can use this to our advantage. We will call it, say, a penance, or an indulgence, and we will put a price on each so we can squeeze more money out of the sheep (laughter.) To give it force, we will make it so they can only confess their sins to a priest, I mean, a "Father" (laughter.) "
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Please recommend revisions; or add to the list, if you have others.
Philip
It’s a start.
I’m sure we’ll be able to add to it.
“Not THAT is sad!”
Yep, the illiterate attacks continue.
Sad.
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