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To: DouglasKC; Colofornian

“This is a baptismal formula, not a description of the Godhead. “


It is a baptismal formula, in the NAME of the Godhead, sophist, which includes the Father, Son and Holy Ghost.

“They understood that this means that we are to receive the holy spirit after being baptized in the name of the father and son.”


IOW, you think Luke contradicts Matthew, but then he must contradict Paul too:

2Co_13:14 The grace of the Lord Jesus Christ, and the love of God, and the communion of the Holy Ghost, be with you all. Amen.

That verse you provided only mentions being baptized in the name of Jesus Christ, resulting in the gift of the Holy Spirit. It does not mention being baptized in the name of the Father AND Christ. Not that Christians didn’t baptize with the entire formula of course, leaving the Father and Spirit out of it:

Didache (Somewhere between 50ad-130ad):

“Chapter 7. Concerning Baptism. And concerning baptism, baptize this way: Having first said all these things, baptize into the name of the Father, and of the Son, and of the Holy Spirit, in living water. But if you have no living water, baptize into other water; and if you cannot do so in cold water, do so in warm. But if you have neither, pour out water three times upon the head into the name of Father and Son and Holy Spirit.”

Ignatius, perished between 95-115AD:

“Wherefore also the Lord, when He sent forth the apostles to make disciples of all nations, commanded them to “baptize in the name of the Father, and of the Son, and of the Holy Ghost,” not unto one [person] having three names, nor into three [persons] who became incarnate, but into three possessed of equal honour.” (Epistle of Ignatius to the Philippians)

“So, yeah, you’ve got it wrong...again... :-)”


It’s more like you belched in my general direction, and then congratulated yourself for it, like the heathen you are.


535 posted on 01/15/2014 4:52:41 PM PST by Greetings_Puny_Humans (I mostly come out at night... mostly.)
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To: Greetings_Puny_Humans
“This is a baptismal formula, not a description of the Godhead. “
It is a baptismal formula, in the NAME of the Godhead, sophist, which includes the Father, Son and Holy Ghost.
“They understood that this means that we are to receive the holy spirit after being baptized in the name of the father and son.”
IOW, you think Luke contradicts Matthew, but then he must contradict Paul too:
2Co_13:14 The grace of the Lord Jesus Christ, and the love of God, and the communion of the Holy Ghost, be with you all. Amen.

You quote 2 (two) verses that include God, Christ and the holy spirit and claim that this is the Godhead. I quote dozens that show that the Godhead is father and son. Bible beats you every time gph.

That verse you provided only mentions being baptized in the name of Jesus Christ, resulting in the gift of the Holy Spirit. It does not mention being baptized in the name of the Father AND Christ. Not that Christians didn’t baptize with the entire formula of course, leaving the Father and Spirit out of it: Didache (Somewhere between 50ad-130ad):

Ha ha...nice try...quote an extra biblical source...sorry, I'll believe the bible and the practice of biblical Christians...

I have no problem if you want to take tradition over what the bible says. But at least be honest enough to say that you prefer your tradition.

536 posted on 01/15/2014 5:09:24 PM PST by DouglasKC
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