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To: restornu; CynicalBear
We all can read words but is when the Lord talks to you through the written word than you have received a witness. Once you experience that sweet taste you will never forget it.

What makes you think Cynical Bear, or I, haven't experienced the Lord speaking to our hearts through His sacred Scriptures? What makes you think we haven't tasted that sweetness of God's word? What makes you think we haven't received a witness - the Spirit bearing witness with our spirit that we are children of God? When two people read Scripture and come away with two completely contradictory meanings, which one is right and which one is in error?

If all you can rely upon is "feelings", you are standing on shaky ground. In case you don't know this, the heart is deceitful above all things and desperately wicked. Why else did God give us His word if not so that we could know truth from error and have a rule of faith which is authoritative and by which all claims of truth must be measured? I will pray for your eyes to be opened to the truth of the gospel.

357 posted on 01/14/2014 2:54:42 PM PST by boatbums (God is ready to assume full responsibility for the life wholly yielded to Him.)
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To: boatbums; restornu

It always amazes me that those who hold some writings or interpretation of some men above scripture then tell us that we aren’t reading scripture correctly or listening to the Holy Spirit.


359 posted on 01/14/2014 3:29:24 PM PST by CynicalBear (For I decided to know nothing among you except Jesus Christ)
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To: boatbums; CynicalBear

We all can read words but is when the Lord talks to you through the written word than you have received a witness. Once you experience that sweet taste you will never forget it.

What makes you think Cynical Bear, or I, haven’t experienced the Lord speaking to our hearts through His sacred Scriptures? What makes you think we haven’t tasted that sweetness of God’s word? What makes you think we haven’t received a witness - the Spirit bearing witness with our spirit that we are children of God? When two people read Scripture and come away with two completely contradictory meanings, which one is right and which one is in error?

If all you can rely upon is “feelings”, you are standing on shaky ground. In case you don’t know this, the heart is deceitful above all things and desperately wicked.

Why else did God give us His word if not so that we could know truth from error and have a rule of faith which is authoritative and by which all claims of truth must be measured?

I will pray for your eyes to be opened to the truth of the gospel.

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I am glad you wrote this I have read this many times and I am very puzzle who is teaching this method.

They are many believers who adhere to this style.

So could you please when did this type of believing began?

Thank you

It would be nice to have a discussion without trying to weed through all the spam

Now I don’t’ want to mislead you I find you approach very unorthodox

At present I am trying to do too many things at once I am you have non cyber things to attend too!


361 posted on 01/14/2014 4:07:57 PM PST by restornu (Luke 24:39... for a spirit hath not flesh and bones, as ye see me have)
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To: boatbums

What makes you think Cynical Bear, or I, haven’t experienced the Lord speaking to our hearts through His sacred Scriptures? What makes you think we haven’t tasted that sweetness of God’s word? What makes you think we haven’t received a witness - the Spirit bearing witness with our spirit that we are children of God?

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Please it would be nice to hear your experience?


364 posted on 01/14/2014 4:21:19 PM PST by restornu (Luke 24:39... for a spirit hath not flesh and bones, as ye see me have)
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To: boatbums; CynicalBear

Why else did God give us His word if not so that we could know truth from error and have a rule of faith which is authoritative and by which all claims of truth must be measured?
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Fear not Joey Smith gave the keys of the priesthood to women too...in 1842

Apr 28, 1842 - At a Relief Society meeting Joseph Smith says,

“I now deliver it as a prophecy that before ten years shall roll round, the queens of the earth shall come and pay their respects to this Society—they shall come with their millions and shall contribute of their abundance for the relief of the poor.”

He also warns:

“Do not indulge too much in the gift of tongues, or the devil will take advantage of the innocent.”

Then he tells the women that

“the keys of the kingdom are about to be given to them that they may be able to detect everything false, as well as to the Elders. . . .I now turn the key to you in the name of God.”

In his diary Joseph writes that he met with

“the members of the “Female Relief Society” and after presiding at the admission of many new members gave a lecture on the Priesthood shewing how the sisters would come in possession of the privileges, blessings, and gifts of the Priesthood, . . .”

My Note:

Of course I didn’t need Joey Smith to tell me that the Spirit of God has been poured out upon me..

God, Himself, tells me so in His Word, The Bible..

“I will pour out my Spirit on all people. Your sons and daughters will prophesy, your old men will dream dreams, your young men will see visions. Even on my servants, both men and women, I will pour out my Spirit in those days.” Joel 2:28, 29

But you, dear friends, by building yourselves up in your most holy faith and praying in the Holy Spirit, Jude 1:20

Let’s see where the Bible “testifies” that Mormonism errs about women and the Holy Spirit..

For I am not ashamed of the gospel, because it is the power of God that brings salvation to everyone who believes: first to the Jew, then to the Gentile. Romans 1:16

There is neither Jew nor Gentile, neither slave nor free, nor is there male and female, for you are all one in Christ Jesus. Galatians 3:28

Even on my servants, both men and women, I will pour out my Spirit in those days, and they will prophesy. Acts 2:18

and how long has God been giving the same gifts and same Holy Ghost to women as He does to men ???

For 2,000 years ..

In the Book of Acts we who bother to read the Bible for ourselves learn that there were 120 Jews both men and women in that Upper Room at the time of Pentecost...

The Holy Spirit came in and they ALL were baptized and filled with POWER..

not just some not just the men but the men and the women..

The only qualifier was they were believers and they were Jews and they were there and they had obeyed the LORD Jesus Christ and stayed in Jerusalem until.. they were endued with POWER..

“And now I will send the Holy Spirit, just as my Father promised. But stay here in the city until the Holy Spirit comes and fills you with power from Heaven.” (The LORD Jesus Christ) Luke 24:49

On one occasion, while He was eating with them, He gave them this command: “Do not leave Jerusalem, but wait for the gift my Father promised, which you have heard me speak about. For John baptized with water, but in a few days you will be baptized with the Holy Spirit.” (The LORD Jesus Christ) Acts 1:4,5

On the day of Pentecost all the believers were meeting together in one place.

Suddenly, there was a sound from Heaven like the roaring of a mighty windstorm, and it filled the house where they were sitting. Then, what looked like flames or tongues of fire appeared and settled on each of them.

And everyone present was filled with the Holy Spirit and began speaking in other languages, as the Holy Spirit gave them this ability. Acts 2:1-4

Gee Nana ya mean that the Holy Spirit didn’t come in and say you, not you, and so on ???

No little grasshopper, God is no respecter of persons Acts 10:34

what He will do for one He will do for another..

The gift is free to EVERYONE...

FREE thats why the LORD Jesus Christ calls the POWER, the ANOINTING of the Holy Spirit a GIFT..

Because everything we are ever going to receive from on high, from God the Father has already been paid for..

When the LORD Jesus Christ came down from His Heaven, took on human flesh and was born as a human baby to shed His Precious Blood on the Cross and to die in our place and pay the awful death penalty to redeem us from the wages of sin and death..

On that Cross He said “IT IS FINISHED”

and it was...for everyone..

There are no works that we must do to be saved...

He did it all..

He completed what He left His Heaven to do..

Jesus, the Word of God, the Darling of Heaven, chose to leave there and come to Earth because He LOVES us..

It is His LOVE for us...not our love..that saves us...

Our love is useless while we are not saved..

We are lost and on our way to hell, to the lake of Fire, to the pit..

our sins are so bad, even our best “works” are like filthy rags..

until we repent and ask for forgiveness..

Even the worst murderer or rapist can be saved..

that life giving Blood of the LORD Jesus Christ covers EVERY sin..

even Hitler could have been saved if he had repented..

even Joseph Smith could have been saved if he had called on the LORD Jesus instead of his Masonic rituals and idols for help that day that he decided to shoot his way out of jail and kill 2 men..

and so when we are saved and we ask for the Holy Ghost, the Comforter, He promises that we will receive Him..

“Ask and it will be given to you; seek and you will find; knock and the door will be opened to you. For everyone who asks receives; the one who seeks finds; and to the one who knocks, the door will be opened.

Which of you, if your son asks for bread, will give him a stone? Or if he asks for a fish, will give him a snake?

If you, then, though you are evil, know how to give good gifts to your children, how much more will your Father in Heaven give good gifts to those who ask Him!” (The LORD Jesus Christ) Matthew 7:111

“But when He, the Spirit of truth, comes, He will guide you into all the truth. He will not speak on his own; He will speak only what He hears, and He will tell you what is yet to come.” (The LORD Jesus Christ) John 16:13

and a few verses which illuminate the Truth of God in Three Persons, Blessed Trinity,

“But very truly I tell you, it is for your good that I am going away. Unless I go away, the Advocate (the Helper, the Guide) will not come to you; but if I go, I will send Him to you.

When He comes, He will prove the world to be in the wrong about sin and righteousness and judgment:

about sin, because people do not believe in Me;

about righteousness, because I am going to the Father, where you can see Me no longer;

and about judgment, because the prince of this world now stands condemned.”(The LORD Jesus Christ) John 16:7-11


382 posted on 01/14/2014 7:07:12 PM PST by Tennessee Nana
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