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To: boatbums

boatman I believe in the Father, Son and Holy Ghost it is how each of us define the Godhead.

I have no trouble with the word Trinity to describe 3 personages.

Some believe 3 in one substance to me that makes no sense.

They are 3 distinct beings.

The Eternal Father

The Son who has and Eternal body of Flesh and Bone

and the Holy Ghost/Spirit is a disembodied soul

We are all spirit those of us on earth have temporal abodes
That is why when we pray we pray in spirit and we all are to be of One mind.

Keep in mind Jesus now has an Eternal Body of Flesh and Bone and Jesus and His Eternal Father are One.

Do you really think the concept of the Trinity as in 3 in one substance?

When we have 1- an Eternal Father 2- and an Eternal Son 3- and the Holy Ghost which is a disembodied spirit.

Jesus also has a conversation with his Father on this subject in John 17 about being one and also being one with us it is in spirit as in we are all one in mind.

21 That they all may be one; as thou, Father, art in me, and I in thee, that they also may be one in us: that the world may believe that thou hast sent me.

22 And the glory which thou gavest me I have given them; that they may be one, even as we are one:

23 I in them, and thou in me, that they may be made perfect in one; and that the world may know that thou hast sent me, and hast loved them, as thou hast loved me.

24 Father, I will that they also, whom thou hast given me, be with me where I am; that they may behold my glory, which thou hast given me: for thou lovedst me before the foundation of the world.

25 O righteous Father, the world hath not known thee: but I have known thee, and these have known that thou hast sent me.

26 And I have declared unto them thy name, and will declare it: that the love wherewith thou hast loved me may be in them, and I in them.

The verse in John 14 need to be ponder as to what is taking place

John 14

15 ¶If ye love me, keep my commandments.

16 And I will pray the Father, and he shall give you another Comforter, that he may abide with you for ever;

17 Even the Spirit of truth; whom the world cannot receive, because it seeth him not, neither knoweth him: but ye know him; for he dwelleth with you, and shall be in you.

18 I will not leave you comfortless: I will come to you.

There are two comforter aka Holy Ghost the 1 was already here in the OT. The second comes after Jesus departs earth.

again on the comforter...

26 But the Comforter, which is the Holy Ghost, whom the Father will send in my name, he shall teach you all things, and bring all things to your remembrance, whatsoever I have said unto you.

27 Peace I leave with you, my peace I give unto you: not as the world giveth, give I unto you. Let not your heart be troubled, neither let it be afraid.

28 Ye have heard how I said unto you, I go away, and come again unto you. If ye loved me, ye would rejoice, because I said, I go unto the Father: for my Father is greater than I.

Now something very important we need to keep the Lord’s commandment aka words.

21 He that hath my commandments, and keepeth them, he it is that loveth me: and he that loveth me shall be loved of my Father, and I will love him, and will manifest myself to him.

22 Judas saith unto him, not Iscariot, Lord, how is it that thou wilt manifest thyself unto us, and not unto the world?

23 Jesus answered and said unto him, If a man love me, he will keep my words: and my Father will love him, and we will come unto him, and make our abode with him.

24 He that loveth me not keepeth not my sayings: and the word which ye hear is not mine, but the Father’s which sent me.

in John 15 Jesus reintegrates again

26 But when the Comforter is come, whom I will send unto you from the Father, even the Spirit of truth, which proceedeth from the Father, he shall testify of me:

27 And ye also shall bear witness, because ye have been with me from the beginning.


246 posted on 01/13/2014 11:25:32 PM PST by restornu (Luke 24:39... for a spirit hath not flesh and bones, as ye see me have)
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To: restornu; Jeff Head
I have no trouble with the word Trinity to describe 3 personages.

Some believe 3 in one substance to me that makes no sense.

What makes NO sense is that only 2 of your religion's 3 PERSONAGES have physical bodies.

Got any MORMON evidence as to WHY that is true??


Jesus Christ is God’s Son, spiritually and physically.

He calls Him Father, He prays to Him.
We are to pray to Him, God the Father, in the name of Jesus Christ, His Son.
God’s voice was heard at Christ’s baptism, coming from Heaven while He was in the water. The Holy Sirit also descended.
Three seperate entities/Gods.

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261 posted on 01/14/2014 3:19:55 AM PST by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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