Posted on 01/12/2014 7:49:32 PM PST by restornu
Jesus told His disciples to preach His Gospel freely to all the world. The Apostles gave us the salvation formula in the book of Acts. Those who hear and believe the message are to repent of their sins, being baptized into His Name.
Only those who will endure unto the end will be saved. No person is able to work themselves into salvation, nor must a person speak in unknown tongues to be saved. Easy believism also is a falsehood and a lie. We all must apply the whole word of God to be saved. The tribulation is just around the corner, even as all the signs of it (read Ezekiel 38-39, Matthew 24, Mark 13 and the book of Revelations) are all here. The truth will set a person free from sin and Satan, giving spiritual fruits which include peace, love and joy everlasting.
This topic is never resolved if it was in the Bible it would be no issue!
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God is a mystery. We are unable, at this time, to understand much about Him. We know His attributes and His title (Creator) but for anyone to definitively put God in a bottle or book is impossible. It isn’t necessary to believe or not believe in Trinitarism for Salvation, so it really isn’t important.
I didn't know that, all this time, I had thought that you were a Mormon.
“Some use this portion of Scripture to accuse those of us who embrace the Apostles’ One God Monotheistic Doctrine,”
I can’t help but to notice that the author of this OP is, in fact, a member of the LDS... and the LDS is entirely polytheistic, not monotheistic, and they do not teach that the holy scripture is, in fact, accurate. They believe the BOM is more accurate. The reason why the Trinity is so clear in scripture is because the Father, Son and Holy Spirit are defined as separate persons, doing different works in the plan of salvation (The Father elects, the Son redeems, the Holy Spirit applies), and even communing one with another, yet all as just ONE single God.
This article is sloppy, rambling, and embarrassing to post, and doesn’t even attempt to face down what we Christians actually teach, just thumping the chest and making assertions, all for nothing. But, it is typical of the opponents of the holy trinity and scripture.
You can have the holy spirit of God. You can believe in Jesus. You can love God with all your heart soul and mind and your neighbor as yourself....but by golly if you don't swear allegiance to a man-mad creed there are some who try to convince you you're not a Christian....amazing. :-)
A 1000% accurate biblical statement...
Which Bible? That is always the question/
It is true the term “trinity” is not used in the Bible. However, there are multiple references to THE Father, THE Son and THE Holy Spirit.
“All authority in heaven and on earth has been given to me. Therefore go and make disciples of all nations, baptizing them in the name of the Father and of the Son and of the Holy Spirit [Matthew 28:19].”
“May the grace of the Lord Jesus Christ, and the love of God, and the fellowship of the Holy Spirit be with you all [2 Corinthians 13:14].”
“To God’s elect. . .who have been chosen according to the foreknowledge of God the Father, through the sanctifying work of the Spirit, for obedience to Jesus Christ and sprinkling by his blood [1 Peter 1:1-2].”
Besides he’s a teddy bear once you get to know him...well...a teddy bear with rabies... :-)
Two anti-trinitarians agreeing, what a surprise.
“You can love God with all your heart soul and mind and your neighbor as yourself....but by golly if you don’t swear allegiance to a man-mad creed there are some who try to convince you you’re not a Christian....amazing. :-)”
Meanwhile, neither the LDS, nor the Armstrong cults, nor the JWs, or any of the others, actually believe this. On the contrary, “love” does not fulfill their law at all.
"Go ye therefore, and teach all nations, Go, and make disciples of all the nations in My Name, teaching them to observe all things whatsoever I have commanded you,” [[Matt. xxviii. 19.]] From Proof of the Gospel (the Demonstratio) by Eusebius. Eusebius (265-339 CE) Bishop of Caesarea around 314 CE Book III, Chapter 7, 136 (a-d), p. 157 http://www.ccel.org/ccel/pearse/morefathers/files/eusebius_de_05_book3.htm
also
In ~311 CE Eusebius (265-339) Bishop of Caesarea Apparently Matthew 28:19 was changed
shalom b'SHEM Yah'shua HaMashiach
baptizing them in the name of the Father, and of the Son, and of the Holy Ghost." Matthew 28:19 KJV
(2) Book III, Chapter 6, 132 (a), p. 152
(3) Book III, Chapter 7, 138 (c), p. 159
(4) Book IX, Chapter 11, 445 (c), p. 175
(5) Book I, Chapter 3, 6 (a), p. 20
(6) Book I, Chapter 5, 9 (a), p. 24
In his _Proof of the Gospels_
in Book three chapter seven states Go, and make disciples of all the nations in My Name, teaching them to observe all things whatsoever I have commanded you,” [[Matt. xxviii. 19.]]
http://www.ccel.org/ccel/pearse/morefathers/files/eusebius_de_05_book3.htm
after Eusebius wrote his Proof of the Gospel.
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No it isn’t there are all kinds of good folks who can nor fine Trinity not the description in the Bible.
I may be LDS and this is from a Minister who is not LDS so I am not alone on this topic being disputed....
There are many who disagree on this topic not just the LDS there are also mainstream believers in Jesus..
The Trinity folks have every right to believe this but it their opinion, and started by a Tradition not a revelation nor is it in the Holy Bible; Old Testament nor New Testament.
How vivid.
Why would anyone want to come over and compete with that which is already being slung.
Ibtz.
The Truth is...
“This topic is never resolved if it was in the Bible it would be no issue!”
Which Bible? That is always the question
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The Holy Bible; Old Testament nor the New Testament!
Some of those folks remind me of the Pharisees...THEY define what is proper worship yet at the same time their hearts are black and hateful toward others. You know, like whitewashed tombs but their insides are filled with darkness and death...
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