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The Ravenous Wolves of FreeRepublic
Today | Douglaskc

Posted on 01/02/2014 10:13:07 AM PST by DouglasKC

The Ravenous Wolves of FreeRepublic
How do we deal with the insults and pain of those whom Christ called "ravenous wolves"?

Many aren't aware of it but the phrase "A wolf in sheep’s clothing" has biblical origins.

Mat 7:15 "Beware of false prophets, who come to you in sheep's clothing, but inwardly they are ravenous wolves.

The word translated "false prophet" here is not referring to a Godly person who has a prophecy that fails. Instead it's referring to a person who pretends to be a Christian but in reality is not. They are compared to "ravenous wolves" among the flock.

These ravenous wolves exist in life. And they exist here in the religious forum of FreeRepublic. They can be a challenge to our faith and to our Christianity. In this article we're going to examine how to identify these wolves in sheep clothing and how to use our shepard, Jesus Christ, to combat them.

How can we know them? Jesus Christ gave us the answer in the very next verse:

Mat 7:16 You will know them by their fruits. Do men gather grapes from thornbushes or figs from thistles?

In other words, says Christ, real Christians have a certain, identifiable "fruit". The wolves among the sheep will NOT have these fruits. You can't get grapes from thorns.

Jesus then goes on to make another comparison:

Mat 7:17 Even so, every good tree bears good fruit, but a bad tree bears bad fruit.
Mat 7:18 A good tree cannot bear bad fruit, nor can a bad tree bear good fruit.

The word translated "bad" means harmful, or evil. Something that is intended to hurt or destroy. So the hallmark of bad fruit is something that is harmful or destructive to people. "Good" on the other hand is something that is beautiful, beneficial, or worthy.

Mat 7:20 Therefore by their fruits you will know them.

So the mark of a wolf in sheep’s clothing is whether they bear good fruit, or any. In John 15, Christ gives more detail on this fruit.

John 15:4 Abide in Me, and I in you. As the branch cannot bear fruit of itself, unless it abides in the vine, neither can you, unless you abide in Me.
John 15:5 "I am the vine, you are the branches. He who abides in Me, and I in him, bears much fruit; for without Me you can do nothing.

This fruit is something that Christians have. If someone doesn't have Christ they then won't have this fruit.

The Fruit of the Spirit

But what is this fruit? How can we know whether the fruit is good or bad unless we know what it looks like? Luckily the apostle Paul gives us a good idea of what this fruit looks like in the book of Galatians.

Gal 5:22 But the fruit of the Spirit is love, joy, peace, longsuffering, kindness, goodness, faithfulness,
Gal 5:23 gentleness, self-control. Against such there is no law.

This fruit, these characteristics, are the natural result of living and abiding in Christ, in having his spirit.
Paul sums them up beautifully in 1 Corinthians:

1Co 13:4 Love suffers long and is kind; love does not envy; love does not parade itself, is not puffed up;
1Co 13:5 does not behave rudely, does not seek its own, is not provoked, thinks no evil;
1Co 13:6 does not rejoice in iniquity, but rejoices in the truth;
1Co 13:7 bears all things, believes all things, hopes all things, endures all things.

These characteristics apply across all organizations. Organizations do not have a lock on the spirit of God. If someone exhibits these characteristics on a consistent basis they do have the spirit of God and they are a Christian.

There are many people in various organizations on FreeRepublic that exhibit these traits. Many Catholic, LDS, Protestant and Messianic and other members of FreeRepublic exhibit these traits and thus do have the spirit of God and are Christians.

However there are a very few that rarely if ever exhibit these traits. In fact they exhibit something else....the works of the flesh:

Gal 5:19 Now the works of the flesh are evident, which are: adultery, fornication, uncleanness, lewdness,
Gal 5:20 idolatry, sorcery, hatred, contentions, jealousies, outbursts of wrath, selfish ambitions, dissensions, heresies,
Gal 5:21 envy, murders, drunkenness, revelries, and the like; of which I tell you beforehand, just as I also told you in time past, that those who practice such things will not inherit the kingdom of God.

These behaviors are not just physical but are also spiritual. They are destructive and harmful to themselves and those they come into contact with.

That should not be surprising because the emanate not jut from the flesh, but are demonic in origin. James highlights these works.

James 3:13 Who is wise and understanding among you? Let him show by good conduct that his works are done in the meekness of wisdom.

Note that good behavior and meekness are hallmarks of of wisdom, having the spirit of the Lord. James contrasts that with other behavior.

James 3:14 But if you have bitter envy and self-seeking in your hearts, do not boast and lie against the truth.
James 3:15 This wisdom does not descend from above, but is earthly, sensual, demonic.
James 3:16 For where envy and self-seeking exist, confusion and every evil thing are there.

And back to the righteous:

James 3:17 But the wisdom that is from above is first pure, then peaceable, gentle, willing to yield, full of mercy and good fruits, without partiality and without hypocrisy.
James 3:18 Now the fruit of righteousness is sown in peace by those who make peace.

Animal Behavior

So these are the fruits. The ravenous wolves of FreeRepublic generally act like their namesakes....wolf like.

You've seen them. They'll post derogatory things about others and their faith. The purpose isn't to defend their own faith which often is hidden or not evident. . The purpose is to satisfy their hunger for division, acrimony and blood.

Like animals they seem not to know how to behave civility. They can't address others with whom they disagree without snarling, spitting and insulting. They bare their teeth and pretend that their animal nature is noble and Godly.

They justify their animal nature by pretending that they're just like us. They show us their sheepskin but they can't hide their true nature.

Like a wolf pack there is hierarchy and anyone outside of the pack is instantly set upon if one so much as questions the rules of the pack.

Like a wolf pack they howl, or ping others, when they think they've identified a victim. Peter describes their behavior perfectly:

1Pe_5:8 Be sober, be vigilant; because your adversary the devil walks about like a roaring lion, seeking whom he may devour.

That's how the ravenous wolves of FreeRepublic operate. They bait. They hunt down. They attack. They devour and all the while pretend that they're one of us.

Christ is the Shepherd

How do we deal with these wolves? These impostors? These fake Christians? After all they seem to have the advantage of aggressiveness, viciousness and have no qualms about personally attacking others.

The answer is that "we" can't do anything. We're sheep. We're weak. We're helpless. We don't have the teeth or claws they do.

But we have something else. Something they don't have. We have Christ as our shepherd protecting and guiding us. They can't harm us if we depend on Christ and stay in the flock.

Really all the wolves can do is sit just outside the flock, snarling, biting and snapping at us. And maybe that's why they're bitter and angry. They realize that they're not real sheep. They envy that the sheep have real faith in their shepherd. They wonder why Christ doesn't accept their disguise as being the real thing.

Now certainly we're not perfect sheep. I'm not. Sometimes we take their bait. It's not easy to see other sheep begin attacked or to be attacked. Sometimes we want to snarl back with our little sheep teeth. But it rarely works because to do that we have to leave the side of Christ.

The best strategy is to let Christ take care of them. They're not fooling very many and they're certainly not fooling Jesus. They're interested only in satisfying their hunger. They don't want to debate. When they pretend they are they're really only dangling bait to draw others out where they will be vulnerable and away from the shepherd.

About such Christ said:

Mat 7:6 "Don't give what is holy to dogs or throw your pearls to pigs. Otherwise, they will trample them and then tear you to pieces.

These ravenous wolves of FreeRepublic have figured out how to manipulate and find the "loopholes" in the forum rules so their rude, crude and unChristian behavior is tolerated. But they're not fooling anyone. A leopard can't hide his spots.

Ultimately they are to be pitied. Clearly they've had experiences in their lives where they've been hurt deeply. They've been betrayed. They've been picked on. They've been abused. So not knowing Christ they do the same to others. They behave like animals as all Christians did before becoming Christians.

But they don't have to. One day God will open up their eyes. He will show them that they are only pretending to be sheep and they will realize their animal nature and be ashamed. And then Christ will show them HOW to become sheep.

Our prayers should be that they will change. That they will bear fruit worthy of repentance. And we should examine ourselves and our attitudes toward them and others. To pray that God gives us the wisdom, kindness and gentleness to deal with those who would use us and spitefully accuse us.

Mat 5:43 "You have heard that it was said, 'Love your neighbor, and hate your enemy.'
Mat 5:44 But I tell you this: Love your enemies, and pray for those who persecute you.
Mat 5:45 In this way you show that you are children of your Father in heaven.

This should be our goal. To let the light of our Father shine through and to glorify him. A tall order to be sure but the only way to stand up to the wolves.


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To: Tax-chick
The Diet of Worms would be just right for you.....

:-)

81 posted on 01/02/2014 12:25:44 PM PST by Lakeshark (Mr Reid, tear down this law!)
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To: DouglasKC

Well, I guess only Jesus can post here now.


82 posted on 01/02/2014 12:26:06 PM PST by right way right (What's it gonna take? (guillotines?))
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To: cizinec

Funny!


83 posted on 01/02/2014 12:28:18 PM PST by Sawdring
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To: skeeter
While I understand your reaction to those who seem to relish offending christians (or different faiths) there is always something faith-confirming in those threads. And its instructive to see how other more articulate freepers of faith deal with typical anti-christian or anti religion arguments, etc.

Great points. I admire those who can come onto a thread and respectfully debate their objections. I really admire someone who can come onto a thread they disagree with, debate their position and not respond in kind to insults. I VERY greatly admire those who can ignore a thread they disagree with!

84 posted on 01/02/2014 12:30:49 PM PST by DouglasKC
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To: Tax-chick
We’re not really ravenous ... just dieting.

Thanks for the humor!

85 posted on 01/02/2014 12:32:14 PM PST by DouglasKC
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To: svcw; DouglasKC

Christians are not the ones who started this fight. Joseph Smith threw down the gauntlet, the Christians picked it up, and the Mormons have been crying “foul” ever since.

Same with others who suddenly threw down their gauntlet (JWs, Armstrongists, SDAs, just to name a few) and declared “THEY” were right and everyone else was wrong!

Christians also picked up that gauntlet and these new groups too have been crying “foul!” when they found themselves challenged on all fronts.

Meanwhile, the Catholics and Protestants tangle and each is able to fairly well hold their ground and often score points for their cause. But then, what do you expect from well founded Trinitarians.


86 posted on 01/02/2014 12:36:35 PM PST by Ruy Dias de Bivar (Sometimes you need 7+ more ammo. LOTS MORE.)
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To: Lakeshark

LOL - that was a good one!


87 posted on 01/02/2014 12:39:14 PM PST by Tax-chick (The superpowers ascribed to "feminists" make me wish I was one.)
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To: DouglasKC; Jack Hydrazine
Mat_7:15 "Beware of false prophets, who come to you in sheep's clothing, but inwardly they are ravenous wolfhounds.

An apt description of Joseph Smith, the founder of Mormonism.
88 posted on 01/02/2014 12:40:32 PM PST by SoConPubbie (Mitt and Obama: They're the same poison, just a different potency)
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To: sheana
I expect everyone to pile on so it’s okay....just do it. I was raised Pentecostal by a preacher grandfather and God fearing grandmother so spent many many hours in church every week. But so many churches/people condemning other people is the exact reason I don’t go to church! I just don’t, and I guess never will understand, why so many Christians must act holier than thou. They need lessons from Mother Theresa. Just my opinion, take it or leave it and flame away.

Unfortunately you're right. Within any church organization or belief system there is the tendency, driven by the wolves in sheep's clothing, to tear down others. The agenda is Satanic and is designed as an attempt to minimize, obscure, and otherwise demean the body of Christ.

89 posted on 01/02/2014 12:46:21 PM PST by DouglasKC
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To: Ruy Dias de Bivar

Correct
I was being sarcastic, apparently epic failure
:-)


90 posted on 01/02/2014 12:52:33 PM PST by svcw (Not 'hope and change' but 'dopes in chains')
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To: ex-snook

Sometimes people look for a Church for what they can get out of it [”I don’t go to Church. I don’t get anything out of it”] Try giving your time to God.


Actually a different subject, we are not giving our time to God by going to Church, we give our time to God by doing what Jesus told us to do.

The purpose of the Church is to preach the gospel, after hearing the gospel we are supposed to go out and live it.


91 posted on 01/02/2014 12:53:03 PM PST by ravenwolf
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To: DouglasKC

When you say Body of Christ which Christ are you talking about?
mormonISM? Christianity? They are not the same Christ.


92 posted on 01/02/2014 12:54:29 PM PST by svcw (Not 'hope and change' but 'dopes in chains')
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To: xzins

To follow Jesus is to love His Church.


The followers of Jesus is his Church, following Jesus is to live his gospel.


93 posted on 01/02/2014 12:55:44 PM PST by ravenwolf
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To: count-your-change
Jesus additionally said that all would know they were his disciples if they showed love among themselves. (John 13:35)
This was not the love of neighbor but as Jesus called it, “a new commandment”, that his disciples love one another as he had loved them, being willing to lay down his life for them.
How many who call themselves disciples of Jesus would willing lay down their life for a spiritual brother or sister? Yet that was a requirement of being recognized as a Christian.

Indeed and a great reminder. But consider how much greater his love that he also loved those that hated him!

Mat 5:46 If you love those who love you, do you deserve a reward? Even the tax collectors do that!
Mat 5:47 Are you doing anything remarkable if you welcome only your friends? Everyone does that!
Mat 5:48 That is why you must be perfect as your Father in heaven is perfect.

Imagine our worst enemy spitting on us, snarling at us, yelling at us, calling us names...and STILL having enough love for them that we would die for them. Wow....

94 posted on 01/02/2014 12:57:58 PM PST by DouglasKC
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To: Fiji Hill
I hope you had a happy holiday.

Thanks...I hope you did too.

95 posted on 01/02/2014 1:00:17 PM PST by DouglasKC
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To: sauropod
Your post reminds me of my shortcomings in the eyes of God, my humbleness (or lack thereof) and how far I still have to go. Over the last couple of years, I have resolved to make sure to read a post twice or three times before posting it, and not to attack someone personally if there can be found a way to put forth a criticism w/o making it personal.* Thanks for your post.

Thank you for sharing your insight. I too struggle with wanting to stand up for Christ and at the same time recognizing what is wounded pride and arrogance and responding that way versus what and how Christ wants us to communicate. It's not always easy.

96 posted on 01/02/2014 1:05:38 PM PST by DouglasKC
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To: ravenwolf
"The purpose of the Church is to preach the gospel, after hearing the gospel we are supposed to go out and live it."

With apologies, if that is all there is, you can hear the Gospel at home on TV and radio.

97 posted on 01/02/2014 1:08:22 PM PST by ex-snook (God is Love)
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To: Idaho_Cowboy
You have to be careful who you talk to. But that's why proverbs says in chapter 26 verse 4 and 5:” Answer not a fool according to his folly, lest thou also be like unto him. Answer a fool according to his folly,lest he be wise in his own conceit.”

Good scriptures!

98 posted on 01/02/2014 1:08:30 PM PST by DouglasKC
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To: DouglasKC

“You’ve seen them. They’ll post derogatory things about others and their faith. The purpose isn’t to defend their own faith which often is hidden or not evident. . The purpose is to satisfy their hunger for division, acrimony and blood. “

It amazes me that a cultist can turn around a warning against false teachers and try to twist it to apply to Christians. Yes, it took a lot of words, but you did it!


99 posted on 01/02/2014 1:14:43 PM PST by aMorePerfectUnion (Truth is hate to those who hate the Truth)
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To: Jim Robinson
Is this about Mormonism?

No, it's about wolves in sheep's clothing. Those who don't exhibit any evidence of the fruit of the spirit of God.

If so, don’t worry the truth shall set you free. And FR is about truth. It’s our mission. Wouldn’t have it any other way.

Absolutely the truth of Christ will set us free from our sin and death penalty for it:

Joh 8:24 For this reason I told you that you'll die because of your sins. If you don't believe that I am the one, you'll die because of your sins."

Joh 8:32 You will know the truth, and the truth will set you free."
Joh 8:33 They replied to Jesus, "We are Abraham's descendants, and we've never been anyone's slaves. So how can you say that we will be set free?"
Joh 8:34 Jesus answered them, "I can guarantee this truth: Whoever lives a sinful life is a slave to sin.

Being a slave to Christ is freedom indeed....

God bless.

God bless you too...

100 posted on 01/02/2014 1:14:48 PM PST by DouglasKC
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