LOL if you say so. They were kooks who got people murdered can we agree on that? Nothing Biblical about those two groups. Satan twisted and added stuff to the Bible and so did Satan’s disciples Koresh and Jones.
BTW in accordance with Francis I new years resolution list I invoked #5 and #7 in this post.
Hey, since Catholics seem to feel free to define Protestants and Protestantism, we are non-Catholics are free to define Catholics and Catholicism and decide who is and isn't Catholic. Like, Kennedy, Pelosi, Chavez, child molesting priests, all whom the Catholic church owns and serves communion to. Not to mention other groups such as the Society of Saint Pius X (FSSPX) and sedevacantists.