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To: wmfights

Your point about Evangelicals not defending their churches seems reasonable. They do not derive apostolic authority or tradition from them. They are not claiming to be the one true church and the doctrines held by that church are largely a result of either the personal leadership of the pastor and/or the popular demand of the members.


121 posted on 12/28/2013 9:41:44 PM PST by af_vet_1981 (The bus came by and I got on, That's when it all began,)
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To: af_vet_1981

I would have to disagree with your statement. I have been on both sides of the Tiber so to speak. In most Evangelical churches the Holy Scriptures are the doctrine. If a pastor strays from the scriptures the elders will give the pastor his walking papers. The laity in the Catholic church have no say in any church government matters. I am sure if Nancy Pelosi ‘s
Parrish had a say, she would be out on her ear. But they don’t have a say.


123 posted on 12/28/2013 9:58:50 PM PST by redleghunter
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To: af_vet_1981; daniel1212
Your point about Evangelicals not defending their churches seems reasonable. They do not derive apostolic authority or tradition from them. They are not claiming to be the one true church and the doctrines held by that church are largely a result of either the personal leadership of the pastor and/or the popular demand of the members.

D1212, this response is a good example of what that RC poster meant. They will defend their church no matter what because for them it is their faith.

Vet, we don't need any of those earthly creations. Evangelical Christians are the Body of Christ. We are to be His bride. Our doctrines are not given to us by a group of men. Our doctrines have been given to us by God in His Word.

181 posted on 12/29/2013 7:14:00 AM PST by wmfights
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To: af_vet_1981; wmfights; redleghunter; metmom; boatbums
Your point about Evangelicals not defending their churches seems reasonable. They do not derive apostolic authority or tradition from them. They are not claiming to be the one true church and the doctrines held by that church are largely a result of either the personal leadership of the pastor and/or the popular demand of the members.

That is more propaganda, as in fact the modern evangelical movement was due to a shared commitment to commonly held core truths, like as RCs must assent to.

These core truths includes the truths expressed by the apostles creed, and the supremacy of Scripture as the wholly inspired and basically literal Word of God, versus liberal revisionism such as seen sanctioned within Roman Catholicism.

Thus evangelicals have been the foremost defenders of such doctrines as the Trinity, the Divine inspiration of Scripture, salvation by grace, etc., as well as against the inventions of Rome.

And evangelicals yet testify to more unity in conservative moral values and core truths than their Catholic counterparts.

And thus both liberals and Rome (most of which consists of liberals) have treated evangelicals as their greatest threat.

If there was not common assent but were as you describe them, then this could not be the case, while there is great diversity in beliefs among those whom Rome counts and treats as members in life and in death, and which is what Rome effectually conveys sanction of.

210 posted on 12/29/2013 11:50:48 AM PST by daniel1212 (Come to the Lord Jesus as a contrite damned+destitute sinner, trust Him to save you, then live 4 Him)
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