[Gamecock]

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Because 18,000 People Can’t be wrong!

[Boogieman]

I just assume anyone leading a “megachurch” is in it for the money and celebrity, and probably isn’t any kind of Christian in the first place. That way, their antics never disappoint me.

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After a short period of “restoration,” the Haggards returned to the public eye with books, television interviews, and a re-launched ministry.

Working closely with Jimmy Swaggart? There are qualifications to being a pastor.

[US Navy Vet]

Matthew 7
Authorized (King James) Version (AKJV)

15 Beware of false prophets, which come to you in sheep’s clothing, but inwardly they are ravening wolves. 16 Ye shall know them by their fruits. Do men gather grapes of thorns, or figs of thistles? 17 Even so every good tree bringeth forth good fruit; but a corrupt tree bringeth forth evil fruit. 18 A good tree cannot bring forth evil fruit, neither can a corrupt tree bring forth good fruit. 19 Every tree that bringeth not forth good fruit is hewn down, and cast into the fire. 20 Wherefore by their fruits ye shall know them.

21 Not every one that saith unto me, Lord, Lord, shall enter into the kingdom of heaven; but he that doeth the will of my Father which is in heaven. 22 Many will say to me in that day, Lord, Lord, have we not prophesied in thy name? and in thy name have cast out devils? and in thy name done many wonderful works? 23 And then will I profess unto them, I never knew you: depart from me, ye that work iniquity.

[PapaNew]

The mainspring of sin is condemnation of the law. There is one answer and one answer alone for sin. It is the gospel of the grace of Jesus Christ. "The strength of sin is the law" (I Cor 16:56). "For sin shall no more have dominion over you: for you are not under the law but under grace" (Rom 6:14). And what is the Biblical definition of falling from grace? Is it sin? No. "Whosoever of you are justified by the law; you are fallen from grace" (Galatians 5:4).

So how do we reign in life over all these things? By the law and performance? No. "They which receive abundance of grace and the GIFT [not works] of righteousness shall reign in life by one, Jesus Christ" (Rom 5:17).

What is the answer for Haggard? God's grace. "For sin shall no more have dominion over you: for you are not under the law but under grace" (Rom 6:14) so that "when sin abounds, grace much more abounds" (Rom 5:20).

[Hoodat]

”The therapeutic team that dug in on me insisted that I did not have a spiritual problem.”

Sounds like something satan would say.

[cdcdawg]

Therapy, as it’s usually conceived, is of limited value. It’s all well and good that Haggard knows why he has a problem, assuming they got it right. That does very little to combat the problem. He acted on his impulses. That required volition, unless he is literally insane. His mind commanded his body to do certain things. He needs to learn how to control that impulse, and that starts at the “spiritual” level.

[editor-surveyor]

Churchianity on the move, please pass the NoDoz.

[metmom]

I’m no worse than anyone else. In a number of places Haggard basically says, “OK, I’m not perfect, but neither are you. We all fall short. We’ve all had sin intrude horribly into our lives. Only Christ is perfect.” In other words, why make such an example of me when you’re no better.

Where have we heard THAT excuse before?