Posted on 12/18/2013 6:39:15 AM PST by Gamecock
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I just assume anyone leading a “megachurch” is in it for the money and celebrity, and probably isn’t any kind of Christian in the first place. That way, their antics never disappoint me.
Grifters.
"Rend your heart, and not your garments."Joel 2:13.
GARMENT-RENDING and other outward signs of religious emotion, are easily manifested and are frequently hypocritical; but to feel true repentance is far more difficult, and consequently far less common. Men will attend to the most multiplied and minute ceremonial regulationsfor such things are pleasing to the fleshbut true religion is too humbling, too heart-searching, too thorough for the tastes of the carnal men; they prefer something more ostentatious, flimsy, and worldly. Outward observances are temporarily comfortable; eye and ear are pleased; self-conceit is fed, and self-righteousness is puffed up: but they are ultimately delusive, for in the article of death, and at the day of judgment, the soul needs something more substantial than ceremonies and rituals to lean upon. Apart from vital godliness all religion is utterly vain; offered without a sincere heart, every form of worship is a solemn sham and an impudent mockery of the majesty of heaven.
HEART-RENDING is divinely wrought and solemnly felt. It is a secret grief which is personally experienced, not in mere form, but as a deep, soul-moving work of the Holy Spirit upon the inmost heart of each believer. It is not a matter to be merely talked of and believed in, but keenly and sensitively felt in every living child of the living God. It is powerfully humiliating, and completely sin-purging; but then it is sweetly preparative for those gracious consolations which proud unhumbled spirits are unable to receive; and it is distinctly discriminating, for it belongs to the elect of God, and to them alone. The text commands us to rend our hearts, but they are naturally hard as marble: how, then, can this be done? We must take them to Calvary: a dying Saviour's voice rent the rocks once, and it is as powerful now. O blessed Spirit, let us hear the death-cries of Jesus, and our hearts shall be rent even as men rend their vestures in the day of lamentation.
Matthew 7
Authorized (King James) Version (AKJV)
15 Beware of false prophets, which come to you in sheeps clothing, but inwardly they are ravening wolves. 16 Ye shall know them by their fruits. Do men gather grapes of thorns, or figs of thistles? 17 Even so every good tree bringeth forth good fruit; but a corrupt tree bringeth forth evil fruit. 18 A good tree cannot bring forth evil fruit, neither can a corrupt tree bring forth good fruit. 19 Every tree that bringeth not forth good fruit is hewn down, and cast into the fire. 20 Wherefore by their fruits ye shall know them.
21 Not every one that saith unto me, Lord, Lord, shall enter into the kingdom of heaven; but he that doeth the will of my Father which is in heaven. 22 Many will say to me in that day, Lord, Lord, have we not prophesied in thy name? and in thy name have cast out devils? and in thy name done many wonderful works? 23 And then will I profess unto them, I never knew you: depart from me, ye that work iniquity.
So how do we reign in life over all these things? By the law and performance? No. "They which receive abundance of grace and the GIFT [not works] of righteousness shall reign in life by one, Jesus Christ" (Rom 5:17).
What is the answer for Haggard? God's grace. "For sin shall no more have dominion over you: for you are not under the law but under grace" (Rom 6:14) so that "when sin abounds, grace much more abounds" (Rom 5:20).
Misses those mega-church mega-millions.
Sounds like something satan would say.
Therapy, as it’s usually conceived, is of limited value. It’s all well and good that Haggard knows why he has a problem, assuming they got it right. That does very little to combat the problem. He acted on his impulses. That required volition, unless he is literally insane. His mind commanded his body to do certain things. He needs to learn how to control that impulse, and that starts at the “spiritual” level.
Meanwhile down at that new XXX bookstore you should see little Brucie.
Churchianity on the move, please pass the NoDoz.
>> “Grifters.” <<
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“Mega - Grifters” I’ll have you know!
>> “ Beware of false prophets, which come to you in sheeps clothing” <<
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I’ve never seen a sheep in a silk suit.
Be careful when quoting scripture that is sloppily translated!
When “the law” is used in Paul’s epistles, it is usually referring to the false law of the Pharisee’s Takanot and Ma’asim, not Yeshua’s Torah.
Failing to recognize this fact leads many to conclude that Paul changed Yeshua’s commandments. Paul changed nothing.
>> “Sounds like something satan would say.” <<
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Amen!
Avoid counselors and Therapists as though your life depended on it; your eternal life does!
Where have we heard THAT excuse before?
Something about ‘wailing’ and ‘gnashing of teeth’ comes to mind.
>> “Something about wailing and gnashing of teeth comes to mind.” <<
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Yes, but not just for the false shepard, but also for the ‘sheep’ that support his live-easy, grace covers all gospel.
It takes a sense of agreement from the flock for these deceivers to grow rich from encouraging them.
Look at the hundreds of millions left in Hal Camping’s coffers.
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