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Why December 25?
Catholic Education ^ | December 17, 2013 | Jon Sorensen

Posted on 12/17/2013 1:54:02 PM PST by NYer

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To: Bringbackthedraft

Growing up I read such things as “Jesus was probably born in August, actually” and “it was really in 4 BC”. Even mentioned in the lyrics of Rice & Lloyd-Webber’s “Superstar”: “If you’d came today you would have reached a whole nation; Israel in 4 BC had no mass communication”.

So apparently the calendar got screwed up and He may have been born in 4 BC.

Wishing you a happy 2018 in a couple weeks :)


21 posted on 12/17/2013 2:56:40 PM PST by raccoonradio
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To: Vaquero
"And it came to passe in those dayes, that there went out a decree from Cesar Augustus, that all the world should be taxed." LUKE 2:1
22 posted on 12/17/2013 3:02:35 PM PST by Kartographer ("We mutually pledge to each other our lives, our fortunes and our sacred honor.")
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To: raccoonradio

Amazing, never knew.

I always say that just like the Queen of the United Kingdom having an “offical birthday” holiday, Christmas is the “offical birthday” of the Lord because we do not know the real birthday date.


23 posted on 12/17/2013 3:06:14 PM PST by Biggirl (“Go, do not be afraid, and serve”-Pope Francis)
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To: Vaquero

“Shepherds watching their “flocks” at night some how equates to lambing season....”
That’s what it looks like to me too. (I used to raise sheep)

“which would be in spring. “
Not in the Bethlehem area. Lambing occurs naturally when the grass is new. That occurs after the rainy season starts (November near Bethlehem). Lambing would then occur from December to January. It would definately NOT occur between March and October.

December 25 turns out to be very plausible.


24 posted on 12/17/2013 3:08:33 PM PST by Varda
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To: NYer

I was always taught that the 25th of December was the beginning of the days of more light and that was most symbolic of Jesus.


25 posted on 12/17/2013 3:24:06 PM PST by cloudmountain
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To: NYer

Just give me that old time religion!

26 posted on 12/17/2013 3:47:46 PM PST by markomalley (Nothing emboldens the wicked so greatly as the lack of courage on the part of the good -- Leo XIII)
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To: Vaquero

Very likely. Not, of course all that important when we celebrate as long as we do. I did see a presentation once that made a good case that the star shining on Bethlehem that led the wise men there was on December 25.

But whatever...


27 posted on 12/17/2013 3:47:52 PM PST by Frumious Bandersnatch
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To: FateAmenableToChange

Thanks. My daughter was actually taught this in college this year, that Christianity came from Egyptian mythology. Also her prof actually introduced the book DaVinci Code as a historical source! And this guy went to Oxford! She came home telling me about it, and was shocked when I told her it was fiction! I will share this info with her.


28 posted on 12/17/2013 3:49:45 PM PST by Red Boots
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To: Vaquero
Shepherds watching their clocks at night...

Were they on a punch-clock?

29 posted on 12/17/2013 3:51:55 PM PST by Arthur McGowan
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To: Frumious Bandersnatch

`Twas brillig, and the slithy toves
Did gyre and gimble in the wabe:
All mimsy were the borogoves,
And the mome raths outgrabe.


30 posted on 12/17/2013 4:07:43 PM PST by stormhill
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To: Arthur McGowan

Yes


31 posted on 12/17/2013 4:08:04 PM PST by Vaquero (Don't pick a fight with an old guy. If he is too old to fight, he'll just kill you.)
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To: NYer
25 Kislev 3756 - Chanukah / Conception of Yeshua

15 Tishri 3757 - Sukkot / Birth of Yeshua

15 Nisan 3790 - (30 C.E.) Pesach / Crucifixion of Yeshua

Christmas is Saturnalia
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Saturnalia

32 posted on 12/17/2013 4:32:11 PM PST by Jeremiah Jr (EL CHaI)
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To: Varda; Vaquero

Nights in that region this time of year are typically in the mid to lower 30s. This year the temps for Christmas week are predicted to be in the low 30s. Sheep out eating grass being watched by Shepards? I think not. Even here in SC the grass is all dead this time of year. There ain’t no “new grass” in that region this time of year.


33 posted on 12/17/2013 4:59:17 PM PST by CynicalBear (For I decided to know nothing among you except Jesus Christ)
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To: Iscool

What is the “middle” of winter like in the Middle East ?? Surely such temperatures should be easy to find out, from a simple google search it seems like its usually around 50 degrees.


34 posted on 12/17/2013 4:59:50 PM PST by escapefromboston (manny ortez: mvp)
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To: CynicalBear

Well, in fairness to those who WANT to believe, the sheep COULD be out in 30 degree weather. What with all the wool they sport..:)


35 posted on 12/17/2013 5:09:43 PM PST by smvoice (There are no prizes given for defending the indefensible.)
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To: NYer

Why not!?!


36 posted on 12/17/2013 5:23:26 PM PST by Gamecock (There are not just two ways to respond to God but three: irreligion, religion, and the gospel. (TK))
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To: Revolting cat!

I heard next year Cinco de Mayo will be on May 5th.


37 posted on 12/17/2013 5:24:39 PM PST by Gamecock (There are not just two ways to respond to God but three: irreligion, religion, and the gospel. (TK))
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To: smvoice

I’d challenge them to grow that “new grass” this time of year in weather like that. Did you see how much snow Jerusalem and surrounding had the other day?


38 posted on 12/17/2013 5:28:02 PM PST by CynicalBear (For I decided to know nothing among you except Jesus Christ)
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To: CynicalBear

lol! Yeah, I saw it! Never let FACTS get in the way of tradition, though. If the sheep were eating snowballs to survive and making snow-angels in the fields, it just adds to the serenity of it all...


39 posted on 12/17/2013 5:39:42 PM PST by smvoice (There are no prizes given for defending the indefensible.)
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