Posted on 12/17/2013 1:54:02 PM PST by NYer
Growing up I read such things as “Jesus was probably born in August, actually” and “it was really in 4 BC”. Even mentioned in the lyrics of Rice & Lloyd-Webber’s “Superstar”: “If you’d came today you would have reached a whole nation; Israel in 4 BC had no mass communication”.
So apparently the calendar got screwed up and He may have been born in 4 BC.
Wishing you a happy 2018 in a couple weeks :)
Amazing, never knew.
I always say that just like the Queen of the United Kingdom having an “offical birthday” holiday, Christmas is the “offical birthday” of the Lord because we do not know the real birthday date.
“Shepherds watching their “flocks” at night some how equates to lambing season....”
That’s what it looks like to me too. (I used to raise sheep)
“which would be in spring. “
Not in the Bethlehem area. Lambing occurs naturally when the grass is new. That occurs after the rainy season starts (November near Bethlehem). Lambing would then occur from December to January. It would definately NOT occur between March and October.
December 25 turns out to be very plausible.
I was always taught that the 25th of December was the beginning of the days of more light and that was most symbolic of Jesus.
Just give me that old time religion!
Very likely. Not, of course all that important when we celebrate as long as we do. I did see a presentation once that made a good case that the star shining on Bethlehem that led the wise men there was on December 25.
But whatever...
Thanks. My daughter was actually taught this in college this year, that Christianity came from Egyptian mythology. Also her prof actually introduced the book DaVinci Code as a historical source! And this guy went to Oxford! She came home telling me about it, and was shocked when I told her it was fiction! I will share this info with her.
Were they on a punch-clock?
`Twas brillig, and the slithy toves
Did gyre and gimble in the wabe:
All mimsy were the borogoves,
And the mome raths outgrabe.
Yes
15 Tishri 3757 - Sukkot / Birth of Yeshua
15 Nisan 3790 - (30 C.E.) Pesach / Crucifixion of Yeshua
Christmas is Saturnalia
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Saturnalia
Nights in that region this time of year are typically in the mid to lower 30s. This year the temps for Christmas week are predicted to be in the low 30s. Sheep out eating grass being watched by Shepards? I think not. Even here in SC the grass is all dead this time of year. There ain’t no “new grass” in that region this time of year.
What is the “middle” of winter like in the Middle East ?? Surely such temperatures should be easy to find out, from a simple google search it seems like its usually around 50 degrees.
Well, in fairness to those who WANT to believe, the sheep COULD be out in 30 degree weather. What with all the wool they sport..:)
Why not!?!
I heard next year Cinco de Mayo will be on May 5th.
Id challenge them to grow that new grass this time of year in weather like that. Did you see how much snow Jerusalem and surrounding had the other day?
lol! Yeah, I saw it! Never let FACTS get in the way of tradition, though. If the sheep were eating snowballs to survive and making snow-angels in the fields, it just adds to the serenity of it all...
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