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To: DouglasKC

:: that Christians, to become Christian, receive that spirit inwardly. That’s what makes us Christians ::

Your recent post (quoted) hinges on the aspect of “become Christian”. To follow through on you position, that is “completed” by a ^reception of the Spirit inwardly^.

To avoid the typical “where do you find that terminology or string-of-words in Scripture (avoiding eisegesis), I’ll simply ask, “in what way is the Holy Spirit made to dwell” in man (provided you agree that Christ died as the propitiation of mankind’s sin on the Cross).


108 posted on 12/12/2013 3:25:27 PM PST by Cletus.D.Yokel (Faith, in the Christian sense, is verb, not a noun.)
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To: Cletus.D.Yokel

Oh, and Doug, I’m overlooking theyour use of the most childish and offensive word ever devised in the English language...

:: Scripture teaches in it’s totality that yes, the holy spirit of God is poured out, ^^but^^ also that Christians... ::

...but...!


109 posted on 12/12/2013 3:27:51 PM PST by Cletus.D.Yokel (Faith, in the Christian sense, is verb, not a noun.)
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To: Cletus.D.Yokel
Your recent post (quoted) hinges on the aspect of “become Christian”. To follow through on you position, that is “completed” by a ^reception of the Spirit inwardly^.
To avoid the typical “where do you find that terminology or string-of-words in Scripture (avoiding eisegesis), I’ll simply ask, “in what way is the Holy Spirit made to dwell” in man (provided you agree that Christ died as the propitiation of mankind’s sin on the Cross).

2Ti 1:6 Therefore I remind you to stir up the gift of God which is in you through the laying on of my hands.
2Ti 1:7 For God has not given us a spirit of fear, but of power and of love and of a sound mind.

Act 8:17 Then they laid hands on them, and they received the Holy Spirit.
Acts 8:18 And when Simon saw that through the laying on of the apostles’ hands the Holy Spirit was given, he offered them money,

This is the normative biblical mechanism. In new testament scripture there are only two exceptions. One is the outpouring of God's spirit on Pentecost on the first Jewish Christians and the second is the outpouring of God's spirit on the first gentile Christians in Acts 10.

Other than that there are many scriptures that show that God's spirit is an indwelling presence in believers and it's the heat of the new covenant:

Hbr 8:10 “For this is the covenant that I will make with the house of Israel after those days, says the LORD: I will put My laws in their mind and write them on their hearts; and I will be their God, and they shall be My people.

This is a description of the effects of that indwelling spirit.

1Cr 3:16 Do you not know that you are the temple of God and that the Spirit of God dwells in you?

129 posted on 12/12/2013 4:13:47 PM PST by DouglasKC
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