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To: Gamecock

As a Catholic, looking in, the problem with with many of these megachurches is that they are basically non-denominational and family run affairs-—like the Hagees, the Osteens, Joyce Meyers, the Schullers. They may have great preachers, great followings, and great buildings. But what they don’t have is an enduring INSTITUTION. Once the great pastor retires or passes, the great megachurch tends to follow suit. Case in point: The Crystal Cathedral in Garden Grove. Now going to be converted into a Catholic Cathedral and the seat of the Catholic Orange County Diocese.


6 posted on 12/11/2013 9:54:35 AM PST by Trapped Behind Enemy Lines
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To: Trapped Behind Enemy Lines

Jesus People Church in Minneapolis used to be huge and did great work.
It collapsed into a black hole starting in ‘89 as costs of running it became the primary goal.


9 posted on 12/11/2013 10:02:35 AM PST by Zathras
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To: Trapped Behind Enemy Lines

I agree. It is personality drive, not connected to anything else.

Look at churches that have been in the same locale for generations and that is where the action is. Regardless of denomination.


20 posted on 12/11/2013 10:34:04 AM PST by Gamecock (There are not just two ways to respond to God but three: irreligion, religion, and the gospel. (TK))
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To: Trapped Behind Enemy Lines
As a Catholic, looking in, the problem with with many of these megachurches is that they are basically non-denominational and family run affairs-—like the Hagees, the Osteens, Joyce Meyers, the Schullers. They may have great preachers, great followings, and great buildings. But what they don’t have is an enduring INSTITUTION. Once the great pastor retires or passes, the great megachurch tends to follow suit. Case in point: The Crystal Cathedral in Garden Grove. Now going to be converted into a Catholic Cathedral and the seat of the Catholic Orange County Diocese.

I can't say that I disagree.

36 posted on 12/11/2013 11:39:10 AM PST by Lee N. Field ("You keep using that verse, but I do not think it means what you think it means.")
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To: Trapped Behind Enemy Lines

You nailed it.

In my area, the mega-churches are social clubs, not churches.


44 posted on 12/11/2013 2:03:25 PM PST by Rum Tum Tugger
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To: Trapped Behind Enemy Lines
But what they don’t have is an enduring INSTITUTION.

The body of Christ is not an institution. It's an organism, not an organization.

When a denomination is based all around the founder or an individual, then yes, what will happen is what you've seen happen.

That's why the church needs to be founded on the Word of God and have godly elders and deacons and a godly pastor. That way it's not all hanging on one person.

There are many non-denominational churches which have successfully passed the baton in regards to leadership are are still as solid as when they began.

It's just that nobody notices those. They all point to the big name televangelists and use them as the example of what can go wrong, broad brushing all churches as if the exceptions are the norm.

They're not.

54 posted on 12/12/2013 2:39:42 AM PST by metmom ( ...fixing our eyes on Jesus, the Author and Perfecter of our faith....)
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