Posted on 12/08/2013 12:35:03 PM PST by CHRISTIAN DIARIST
Evidently that OTHER thread was wearing thin...
Oh?
Just what 'evidence' would satisfy you?
1/3, Nana...
About three years after I graduated a mega consolidated high school took it's place. Problems upon problems plagued it including the new principal getting caught up in a scandal where his son got credit for classes never taken. I worked there for a couple of months after I got out of the Navy. The new high school was a zoo.
The singer Carman has a good song and video called "America Again" that shows the nations moral decline in the past 50 years. Murray was one of about a dozen who were instrumental in bringing down national morality.
I remember while growing up my cousins had a neighbor across the road from them. She was a devout atheist. The mention of GOD would get her wrath. Her daughter moved out just so she could go to church. A neighbor took her in. I think she ended up being a teacher. Her son who seemed to be on the wild side in his youth later became a preacher :>}
I asked my cousin about her a few months after she passed and asked if she had ever changed her viewpoints. He said yea finally in her last days her son was able to get her to listen and as I understand it she received Christ before she passed. The sad part is all the years of her life she was miserable without Christ.
Of course if there is a G-d, perhaps if you believe in him, he would make you alone.
Perhaps you like math. Perhaps the thing you like in math most is solving differential equations. For the first 10,000 years of your afterlife, you happily solve differential equations. After that, you have solved all the differential equations that there are. You really need to go on to something else.
No problem, the second best thing for you to do is to solve intergral equations. You quite happily solve integral equations for another 10,000 years. Alas, after 10,000 years of solving integral equations, you are also done. You have solved them all, and need to go on to something else.
So you are now reduced to performing differentiation, your third favorite thing. The after life is still good, but after only 20,000, you after life quality is significantly diminished.
And as time goes on, you see that you will be reduced to doing things that you are increasingly less enthusiastic about doing. Eventually you know that you will be forced to attend poetry readings, or engaging in group therapy with one of your ex-wives... Yuck.
Better to be a Buddhist, and hope for total annialiation.
If G-d sent me an email, or even a phone call, I think that would do it for me.
someone recommended this one to me. I stopped by to check it out.
Seems that if creation was created in such a fragile way that a few corrupt people could ruin it, it must not have been perfect at the start.
Any fossil evidence of this perfect world? To me, a world with 10 ton predators is a little way from perfect, but that must just be my fallen nature!
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Which was my argument , while "relatively moral" refers to Biblically based basic morality.
That is quite evident, by way of contrast when they (or anyone) becomes born again.
Those who really want what Christ is will find Him.
Just like billions of others, and millions in America, and thousands in my city. They reject light that was given them, and if they hear of Christ, they instinctively know the Lord Jesus is a threat to their life style and the objects of their worship, and so spurn the grace of God.
Multitudes of so-called Christians are lost as well, as you cannot con God, while billions of souls have turned to Christ over the years, and are bought with a precious price. No one who truly wants what Christ is will fail to find Him. .
Creation wasn't created in such a fragile way. It was created precisely as it was intended. If man was never given a choice, man would never know that he would be willing to give up paradise for a chance to rebel against God.
Many would rather reign in hell than serve in heaven.
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That Q&A works on everything. It turns honest believers into agnostics. Just replace God in the 3rd question with the phrase ‘proof that God doesn’t exist’. It’s not a terribly illuminating line of questioning in that respect.
And we were told it would, but to speak anyway. I’ve never met anyone in my life, no matter how badly they may have offended me, or stolen from me, or cut me off in traffic, or bad mouthed me, that I would wish eternal damnation on. (I would hope I could be this way if someone hurt or killed my wife, or my son) We gotta tell them and if they won’t hear it, that is their choice. If they are “offended” or “annoyed” it is as they have chosen, and that is not my fault.
Oh, and thank you ma’am for your added emphasis.
dmz: “That Q&A works on everything. It turns honest believers into agnostics. Just replace God in the 3rd question with the phrase proof that God doesnt exist. Its not a terribly illuminating line of questioning in that respect.”
Not really. If one searches for something and finds it, he becomes a believer in that thing’s existence. There may be a lot of things he doesn’t know, but one thing he no longer doubts...the existence of that thing he has found. Further, he will possibly want to learn more of this thing he’s found (it’s character, attributes, traits, etc), but he will no longer search for it as he has already found it.
On the other hand, if one doubts the existence of something he may hold fast in his belief that the thing does not exist, until he finds it. He has searched for that thing, and has not found it, and he now believes the thing does not exist.
The question for that person, then, is “Have you looked everywhere yet? If not, would you at least acknowledge the possibility of that thing existing somewhere you have yet to look?”
Hallelujah!
Yet another example of the parable of the Vineyard!
(Ok; you early workers - get ready to complain...)
Hope?
Hebrews 11:1 KJV
Now faith is the substance of things hoped for, the evidence of things not seen.
If an email; it would probably end up in your junk folder.
And a phone call, with no caller ID, would be met with a "HEY!! Who is this???
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