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To: armydoc; Arthur McGowan
It's fair criticism of a good share of Catholic leaders in today's Church. I think other FR Catholics could agree with much of the points made from reason, rather than the usual vicious spittle from bigots that post every child abuse allegation they can find.

The article does not claim Catholic theology is hopelessly wrong-headed, but rather I see it as challenge to confront Church leadership when they speak in support of what is so clearly wrong in the secular world.

11 posted on 12/03/2013 10:57:50 AM PST by GOP_Party_Animal
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To: GOP_Party_Animal

It’s rather a straight line, however, from a works-based theological construct, to socialism,
because works based righteousness so easily morphs into advocacy based righteousness.


12 posted on 12/03/2013 10:59:20 AM PST by MrB (The difference between a Humanist and a Satanist - the latter admits whom he's working for)
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To: GOP_Party_Animal
It's fair criticism of a good share of Catholic leaders in today's Church. I think other FR Catholics could agree with much of the points made from reason, rather than the usual vicious spittle from bigots that post every child abuse allegation they can find. The article does not claim Catholic theology is hopelessly wrong-headed, but rather I see it as challenge to confront Church leadership when they speak in support of what is so clearly wrong in the secular world.

Agree. I admire the humility of this Pope, and I do think it is genuine. He has shown willingess to be a servant-leader of his people. That spirit, self-sacrifice, is genuinely Christian. That is what Catholic leadership (and all leaders in Christendom) should be extolling. Unfortunately, for some reason he doesn't see the dramatic difference between self-sacrfice/charity and state enforced redistribution. If he did see the difference, and its effects, he certainly wouldn't advocate for it.
17 posted on 12/03/2013 11:07:21 AM PST by armydoc
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