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There is no contradiction at all. Alma is talking about procrastinating your repentance. People that know the law and have not committed to following it. He's not talking about people who have never received it before.

The contradiction was regarding the doctrine you claimed was one of THE most important works Mormonism's god say you must do - be baptized for those who didn't get the message in their earthly life and that there would be "preaching" to those lost souls who died so that they get a "second chance". According to this Alma statement, your own scripture says, "For behold THIS LIFE is the time for men to prepare to meet God...do not procrastinate the day of your repentance until the end; for after this day of life...then cometh the night of darkness wherein THERE CAN BE NO LABOR PERFORMED." Sure it is speaking of procrastinating repentance, but according to you, they STILL will get another chance to repent in the afterlife. I realize it is difficult for someone who is not uniquely inspired by the Holy Spirit to keep their theology all straight so that they don't mess up something they say somewhere else. This is but one example.

I understand the "eternities" as the Bible teaches them. Your challenge of understanding the "levels" like your religion imagines them do not intrigue me in the least. Jesus said that we are sanctified (set apart) by the truth and that God's word is the truth. You have no way to confirm that what your religion's founders have declared is also God's word is actually His word. God's word is TRUTH and His truth sets us apart from the world. Your scriptures go against the Bible and that is why I KNOW they are not from God. Like I have said many times already, if you cannot prove your doctrines by the Bible, then quoting your other so-called scriptures will be ignored.

Like I have said many times already, if you cannot prove your doctrines by the Bible, then quoting your other so-called scriptures will be ignored.

Um... not quite...

If your doctrines DISAGREE with the Bible, then quoting your other scriptures will put them up to a VERY high standard of scrutiny; PROVING just why they should be followed instead of what the BIBLE has clearly taught for centuries, and just WHY they should supersede the BIBLE now.

"be baptized for those who didn't get the message in their earthly life and that there would be "preaching" to those lost souls who died so that they get a "second chance"."

You've confused several principles here. In God's eyes, if they've never had a chance to hear the gospel before, it's not a second chance, but a first chance. God sees the living and the dead equally.

Unfortunately because you've limited your resources, there are several things missing in your understanding of the eternities. Everyone gets many chances to receive the gospel, the difference is, the reward that's received after the judgement is varied.

Eventually, every person that's ever lived on this earth will bow down and acknowledge Jesus as the one true Christ. But that doesn't change their eternal reward. All sin has to be paid for and eventually it will be. But that doesn't change the fact that those people that procrastinated their repentance will not be allowed into the kingdom of God after the judgement.

"I realize it is difficult for someone who is not uniquely inspired by the Holy Spirit to keep their theology all straight..."

Arrogance.

"I understand the "eternities" as the Bible teaches them.."

You have the writings of some of the prophets, but not the prophets themselves to explain what they meant. The only specifics you have are 1 Cor 15:40. And you're relying on your own interpretation for even that.

I've seen the ridiculous things people come up with to try to explain that one away too. That alone should be a big red flag to anyone that actually cares.

"You have no way to confirm that what your religion's founders have declared is also God's word is actually His word."

I most certainly do. I have the promise of God Himself to answer those that sincerely ask Him. I've put that promise to the test and received my answer. I have faith in Jesus Christ and I do my best to follow His commandments. I know that He guides me.

"Your scriptures go against the Bible and that is why"

No. They go against -your- interpretation of the Bible. In reality they go hand in hand with Bible to teach us the truth God would have us know in this life.

"Like I have said many times already, if you cannot prove your doctrines by the Bible, then quoting your other so-called scriptures will be ignored."

I don't have to prove anything. I will quote what matters to me. If you ignore them then that's your choice.

1 Peter 3:
19 By which also he went and preached unto the spirits in prison;

1 Peter 4:
6 For for this cause was the gospel preached also to them that are dead,

Also, I can let the text stand on it's own. I don't have to turn it into something incomprehensible and illogical to keep a house of cards propped up.