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To: Colofornian; StormPrepper
Alma 34:32-35 says there's no second chance: For behold THIS LIFE is the time for men to prepare to meet God...do not procrastinate the day of your repentance until the end; for after this day of life...then cometh the night of darkness wherein THERE CAN BE NO LABOR PERFORMED. Ye cannot say, when ye are brought to that awful crisis, that I will reprent, that I will return to my God. Nay, ye cannot say this; for that same spirit which doth possess your bodies at the time that ye go out of this life, that same spirit will have power to possess your body in that eternal world. (I cited parts of vv. 32-34) Both Mosiah 16:11 & 1 Nephi 15:35 says there's only TWO destinations post-death (not a third called "spirit prison"). And the BoM knows only heaven & hell -- no temporary spirit prison (Mormon 9:23; Ether 4:18; Hel. 14:18-19; Alma 3:26; Alma 40:26; 2 Nephi 2:28-29; 2 Nephi 9:16; Alma 41:4; 3 Nephi 27:11,17; 2 Nephi 28:21-22). If Mormons would only study their own Book of Mormon on post-life...(Smith took much of his early belief system from the Bible before it got twisted)...then they'd see how off-kilter this later-developed baptism of the dead idea was...

How curious! I was just told by SP that:

Baptism for the dead is in the top three works God has given us. As it is shown in Titus, a pattern of good works must be shown. When the books are opened and your life is judged, can you say you did the work for your dead that the Lord has commanded you to do?

How do you rectify this contradiction Storm Prepper? Are you in the position to nullify the Mormon scripture like y'all do for the Divine Bible?

286 posted on 12/16/2013 9:00:56 PM PST by boatbums (God is ready to assume full responsibility for the life wholly yielded to Him.)
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To: boatbums
How do you rectify this contradiction Storm Prepper? Are you in the position to nullify the Mormon scripture like y'all do for the Divine Bible?

You ignore what you cannot spin away; and then muddy the water with the rest of your doctrine.

312 posted on 12/17/2013 8:27:40 AM PST by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: boatbums
"For behold THIS LIFE is the time for men to prepare to meet God...do not procrastinate the day of your repentance until the end; for after this day of life...then cometh the night of darkness wherein THERE CAN BE NO LABOR PERFORMED."

"How do you rectify this contradiction Storm Prepper? Are you in the position to nullify the Mormon scripture like y'all do for the Divine Bible?"

There is no contradiction at all. Alma is talking about procrastinating your repentance. People that know the law and have not committed to following it. He's not talking about people who have never received it before.

Alma is also not teaching lesson on the specifics of the eternities. Again, he's talking about repentance. This is why you need all scripture, not just a piece of it.

If you want to try to actually understand the eternities you have to look at D&C 76

D&C 76:
11 We, Joseph Smith, Jun., and Sidney Rigdon, being ain the Spirit on the sixteenth day of February, in the year of our Lord one thousand eight hundred and thirty-two—

12 By the power of the aSpirit our beyes were opened and our understandings were enlightened, so as to see and understand the things of God—

20 And we beheld the glory of the Son, on the bright hand of the Father, and received of his fulness;

21 And saw the holy angels, and them who are sanctified before his throne, worshiping God, and the Lamb, who worship him forever and ever.

22 And now, after the many testimonies which have been given of him, this is the testimony, last of all, which we give of him: That he lives!

72 Behold, these are they who died without law;

73 And also they who are the spirits of men kept in prison, whom the Son visited, and preached the gospel unto them, that they might be judged according to men in the flesh;

74 Who received not the testimony of Jesus in the flesh, but afterwards received it.

75 These are they who are honorable men of the earth, who were blinded by the craftiness of men.

79 These are they who are not valiant in the testimony of Jesus; wherefore, they obtain not the crown over the kingdom of our God.


You don't really have anything like this level of understanding do you? hmmm...

Here's another you seriously consider...words of Jesus Himself.
D&C 19: 15 Therefore I command you to repent—repent, lest I smite you by the rod of my mouth, and by my wrath, and by my anger, and your sufferings be sore—how sore you know not, how exquisite you know not, yea, how hard to bear you know not.

16 For behold, I, God, have suffered these things for all, that they might not suffer if they would repent;

17 But if they would not repent they must suffer even as I;

18 Which suffering caused myself, even God, the greatest of all, to tremble because of pain, and to bleed at every pore, and to suffer both body and spirit—and would that I might not drink the bitter cup, and shrink—


Some good news for me btw, we broke ground last month on a new Church building in my area.It's just up the street from my house. We are very happy. And it was announced that a new Temple is being built just 7 miles away from my house. We're very excited about that for sure.


313 posted on 12/17/2013 5:19:08 PM PST by StormPrepper
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