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To: Colofornian; All
"#1...Rev. 11:3 describes these so-called "two prophets" as "two witnesses"...who give "testimony" (v. 7). NOT "prophets" per se."

Revelation 11:
3 And I will give apower unto my two bwitnesses, and they shall prophesy a thousand two hundred and threescore days, clothed in sackcloth.


Except that whole part about them prophesying.

4 These are the two olive trees, and the two candlesticks standing before the God of the earth.

And that part about them standing before God.

6 These have power to shut heaven, that it rain not in the days of their prophecy: and have power over waters to turn them to blood, and to smite the earth with all plagues, as often as they will.

And they have power over the elements like Moses did... So yea, except for all that they're just regular witnesses.. /sarc

They stand before God, they prophesy, they wield the power of God over the elements, they are prophets.

"Israel's prophets were oft' contemporaries of each other, the Mormon Church allows ONLY ONE "prophet" at a time!!!"

Wrong. There are 15 prophets. There have always been 15 with the exception being the time before someone is replaced because of death.
266 posted on 12/16/2013 5:47:44 PM PST by StormPrepper
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To: StormPrepper

Since they aren’t really “prophets” it matters not. And how exactly how is a “prophet” elected and how did we get to where there were exactly “X” number of “prophets” at any given time.


267 posted on 12/16/2013 5:59:43 PM PST by ejonesie22 (8/30/10, the day Truth won.)
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To: StormPrepper; All
Wrong. There are 15 prophets. There have always been 15 with the exception being the time before someone is replaced because of death.

ALL: From Primary 5: Doctrine and Covenants: Church History: The Prophet Receives Revelation for the Church

So compare what these Mormons say?

Stormprepper says the Mormon church has 15 active prophets -- unless/until one of them dies...(he is referencing the Lds "Quorum of 12 'apostles'" + the three in the First Presidency.)

But what does the Mormon Church itself say about the number of Lds "prophets" who at any given time have the authority to give revelations for the church?

Who was originally appointed to receive commandments and revelations for the whole Church? (D&C 28:2; 43:2–5.) Why was this done? (D&C 43:6.) What might happen if several people received revelation at the same time for the whole Church? (If they disagreed, members of the Church would not know whom to follow.) Who is the only person who receives revelation for the whole Church today? (The living prophet.) What should we do if someone other than the prophet says he or she has received revelation that Church members should follow? (D&C 43:5–6.) (Source link above)

275 posted on 12/16/2013 6:59:13 PM PST by Colofornian
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To: StormPrepper
Revelation 11: 3 And I will give apower unto my two witnesses, and they shall prophesy a thousand two hundred and threescore days, clothed in sackcloth. Except that whole part about them prophesying.

Have you not read 1 Corinthians 14?

Note all the references to "prophisieth" in those verses...and then particularly note the distinct "speakings" mentioned in verse 7 ... and that the apostle Paul makes a clear "or" distinction between prophesying and speaking "by revelation":

3 But he that prophesieth speaketh unto men to edification, and exhortation, and comfort. 4 He that speaketh in an unknown tongue edifieth himself; but he that prophesieth edifieth the church. 5 I would that ye all spake with tongues but rather that ye prophesied: for greater is he that prophesieth than he that speaketh with tongues, except he interpret, that the church may receive edifying. 6 Now, brethren, if I come unto you speaking with tongues, what shall I profit you, except I shall speak to you either BY REVELATION, or by knowledge, OR BY PROPHESYING, or by doctrine?

Prophesying may be more in the category of "personal" divine guidance...vs. "revelations for the entire church."

277 posted on 12/16/2013 7:08:12 PM PST by Colofornian
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To: StormPrepper
There have always been 15 with the exception being the time before someone is replaced because of death.

MORMON doctrine gets 'replaced at death' all the time.

Your avoidance of the matter shows your doubt.




In conclusion let us summarize this grand key, these “Fourteen Fundamentals in Following the Prophet”, for our salvation depends on them.


1. The prophet is the only man who speaks for the Lord in everything.
2. The living prophet is more vital to us than the standard works.
3. The living prophet is more important to us than a dead prophet.
4. The prophet will never lead the church astray.
5. The prophet is not required to have any particular earthly training or credentials to speak on any subject or act on any matter at any time.
6. The prophet does not have to say “Thus Saith the Lord,” to give us scripture.
7. The prophet tells us what we need to know, not always what we want to know.
8. The prophet is not limited by men’s reasoning.
9. The prophet can receive revelation on any matter, temporal or spiritual.
10. The prophet may advise on civic matters.
11. The two groups who have the greatest difficulty in following the prophet are the proud who are learned and the proud who are rich.
12. The prophet will not necessarily be popular with the world or the worldly.
13. The prophet and his counselors make up the First Presidency—the highest quorum in the Church.
14. The prophet and the presidency—the living prophet and the First Presidency—follow them and be blessed—reject them and suffer.

I testify that these fourteen fundamentals in following the living prophet are true. If we want to know how well we stand with the Lord then let us ask ourselves how well we stand with His mortal captain—how close do our lives harmonize with the Lord’s anointed—the living Prophet—President of the Church, and with the Quorum of the First Presidency.

Ezra Taft Benson

(Address given Tuesday, February 26, 1980 at Brigham Young University)     http://www.lds.org/liahona/1981/06/fourteen-fundamentals-in-following-the-prophet?lang=eng

302 posted on 12/17/2013 8:08:11 AM PST by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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