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To: redleghunter
Paul’s gospel of the grace of God was the message of the death, burial, and resurrection of Christ. Paul wrote the Corinthians,

Now I make known to you, brethren, the gospel which I preached to you, which also you received, in which also you stand, by which also you are saved, if you hold fast the word which I preached to you, unless you believed in vain. For I delivered to you as of first importance what I also received, that Christ died for our sins according to the Scriptures,and that He was buried, and that He was raised on the third day according to the Scriptures, (1 Corinthians 15.1-4)

Do you see the difference in Paul’s gospel? Where is repentance? Where is baptism? They are not there. What is present is an emphasis on belief. Paul’s gospel was that Christ died for your sins and rose from the the dead. Will you believe it? If so, you are saved. This is God’s promise.

Peter’s gospel to the Jews was that they had murdered their Messiah and needed to repent and be baptized (Acts 2.36-38, 41). Did Peter or the Twelve preach Christ crucified for salvation? No. The cross for Peter was something to be repented of, not a message of hope and salvation (Acts 2.22-24; 2.36-39; 3.13-20).

Not until the Jerusalem Council (c. 49-51 A.D.) did this begin to change. After much discussion and dissent, Peter, who apparently had remained quiet during the debate (what a character change!) made a remarkable statement:

After there had been much debate, Peter stood up and said to them, “Brethren, you know that in the early days God made a choice among you, that by my mouth the Gentiles would hear the word of the gospel and believe.” And God, who knows the heart, testified to them giving them the Holy Spirit, just as He also did to us; and He made no distinction between us and them, cleansing their hearts by faith. ”Now therefore why do you put God to the test by placing upon the neck of the disciples a yoke which neither our fathers nor we have been able to bear? ”But we believe that we are saved through the grace of the Lord Jesus, in the same way as they also are.” All the people kept silent, and they were listening to Barnabas and Paul as they were relating what signs and wonders God had done through them among the Gentiles. (Acts 15.8-12)

At the critical moment, God the Holy Spirit moved Peter to recall the time he went to the house of Cornelius, the Roman centurion, a Gentile, many years before (Acts 10.1-48). Peter, who had been listening to the arguments, rose to Paul’s defense in the fierce debate over whether Gentiles had to be circumcised and keep the Law of Moses to be saved. Had it not been for Peter, Paul would have faced severe opposition from both believers and unbelievers. What is most remarkable is Peter’s statement: “But we believe that we are saved through the grace of the Lord Jesus, in the same way as they also are.” What a switch! Jews saved like Gentiles, not Gentiles like Jews? Amazing! What was the result? The Jews who had argued against Paul became silent and listened to Paul and Barnabas.

(All of) This stuff comes from here and many number of other sources on bible doctrine...I stumbled across this site just tonight...

I don't know that anyone knows the exact timeline but some seem to think they are close...One thing is clear to me, there was a transition between Pentecost and the full fledged Gentile church...

380 posted on 11/27/2013 10:14:32 PM PST by Iscool
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To: Iscool
Thanks for the reply and info. I will review the link.

What gospel do you think Peter preached in Acts 10 to Cornelius the Gentile? Was it Grace or repentance.

Paul later in Acts in his sermons (after chapter 15) tells the hearers both Jew and Greek to repent. That can be found in Acts 17 and Acts 20. Then when Paul heads back to Jerusalem he summarizes his ministry by saying he preached all should repent. That can be found in Acts 26.

If you would, continue past the 1 Corinthians 15 quote to this:

1 Corinthians 15:5-11 NASB

and that He appeared to Cephas, then to the twelve. After that He appeared to more than five hundred brethren at one time, most of whom remain until now, but some have fallen asleep; then He appeared to James, then to all the apostles; and last of all, as to one untimely born, He appeared to me also. For I am the least of the apostles, and not fit to be called an apostle, because I persecuted the church of God. But by the grace of God I am what I am, and His grace toward me did not prove vain; but I labored even more than all of them, yet not I, but the grace of God with me. Whether then it was I or they, so we preach and so you believed.

Isn't Paul admitting here that all aforementioned preached the same Gospel?

We know that Paul said his commission was not to baptize. I give that double barrels to the Romans. However 1 Corinthians still tells us believers are baptized in water. What changed? Did Peter institute the first believers baptism with Cornelius before Paul started his ministry?

By your view of two gospels, I am assuming you believe the Holy Spirit indwelled both repentance kingdom gospel Jews and Grace gospel believers? Does that make them one or two bodies in Christ? Paul spoke a lot about one Head which is Christ and we are the members of His Body.

I will offer that if we look closely at the historical event of Pentecost and understand the scriptures Peter quotes and links to the death and resurrection of Jesus Christ, it is the same Gospel clearly outlined by Paul in 1 Corinthians 15. Same if we look closely at Acts 3. Later we see Philip leading the Ethiopian to Christ using Isaiah 53. Some call Isaiah 53 the Gospel according to Isaiah. The scriptural evidence is there is one Christ, one gospel (the one He gave see Luke 24), one Holy Spirit and One Body.

381 posted on 11/28/2013 1:34:12 AM PST by redleghunter
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To: Iscool
BRAVO! I am standing in pure joy with your post and the link you gave. It PERFECTLY states what "but now" is, and Paul's entire ministry. THANK YOU ISCOOL.

If it's alright with you, I'm going to start calling you Linus. This whole thread reminds me of "Charlie Brown Christmas", arguing over each other, frustration, impatience, to the point that the whole POINT gets lost. And here you stand saying "I know. I know what the dispensation of the grace of God is." And you present the link and your input. Bravo!

382 posted on 11/28/2013 5:31:42 AM PST by smvoice (HELP! I'm trapped inside this body and I can't get out!)
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To: Iscool; redleghunter; smvoice
Wow! That was excellent Iscool! Puts it succinctly. It was that council at Jerusalem that it all changed. The gospel of grace took hold and began to be understood and preached. Almost 20 years from the time Christ ascended into heaven.

People keep bringing up Pentecost but they don’t perhaps realize that Pentecost happened almost 20 years before the council at Jerusalem. All of Paul’s writings were after that council.

407 posted on 11/28/2013 1:13:52 PM PST by CynicalBear (For I decided to know nothing among you except Jesus Christ)
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To: Iscool; redleghunter
[...] the fierce debate over whether Gentiles had to be circumcised and keep the Law of Moses to be saved.

Where is it that the Torah says a man must be circumcised in the flesh in order to be saved?

408 posted on 11/28/2013 1:59:42 PM PST by roamer_1 (Globalism is just socialism in a business suit.)
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