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To: Iscool; redleghunter; smvoice
Wow! That was excellent Iscool! Puts it succinctly. It was that council at Jerusalem that it all changed. The gospel of grace took hold and began to be understood and preached. Almost 20 years from the time Christ ascended into heaven.

People keep bringing up Pentecost but they don’t perhaps realize that Pentecost happened almost 20 years before the council at Jerusalem. All of Paul’s writings were after that council.

407 posted on 11/28/2013 1:13:52 PM PST by CynicalBear (For I decided to know nothing among you except Jesus Christ)
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To: CynicalBear; Iscool

It was also at that Council that Peter and the 11 realized that the nation Israel was NOT going to accept Christ as their Messiah, and thus the eminent return of Christ to set up the Kingdom. They realized that something else was taking place, that explained the continued absence of Christ: Paul. And his message of the grace of God, the dispensation of the grace of God. THAT explained Christ’s absence, when, on the day of Pentecost, everything had been in place, according to the prophecy of Joel, and the kingdom was offered to Israel. Acts 15 marks the fading away of Israel and her prophecies, and the ramping up of the dispensation of grace. See Gal. Chapter 2. What was not clear at the beginning of Acts, the day of Pentecost, the stoning of Stephen, and the raising up of Paul, was made CLEAR at that council. And so the revelations from Christ to Paul continued, the body grew, Israel faded, until Acts 28 when she is blinded and set aside and officially becomes Lo Ammi, “not my people”. What Peter, James and John learned about the grace of God and the preaching of the cross, and the shed blood of Christ for the remission of sins they learned from Paul, Gal. Chapter 2.


414 posted on 11/28/2013 4:46:35 PM PST by smvoice (HELP! I'm trapped inside this body and I can't get out!)
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To: CynicalBear; smvoice; Iscool; daniel1212
People keep bringing up Pentecost but they don’t perhaps realize that Pentecost happened almost 20 years before the council at Jerusalem. All of Paul’s writings were after that council.

Paul already completed a missionary journey before the Jerusalem council. Are we to surmise the gospel on his second and third journies were different from the first? I thought it was at Paul's conversion he received the new gospel setting up the Grace dispensation? Several times I have asked for when this new revelation was put into action and so far I have received the following:

-Acts 9

-then I was told Acts 28

-then I was given the impression after Acts 28 while Paul was imprisoned in Rome (prison epistles)

-then I was given the impression it was Acts 13

-now I am hearing Acts 15

Please choose one and we can examine together.

An additional note, I will add it was put forth by not one by a few that Paul never preached repentance. As we see from Acts in three places he did and so did Peter. So the article Iscool posted is in error when it says "Paul did not preach repentance." So let us put that aside since it has been refuted, meaning the repentance issue. It is now established both apostles preached repentance as part of their call to sinners to put on Christ.

I also pointed out in several posts that the Finished Work of Jesus Christ is the very definition of Grace. So I asked for anyone else to chime in if they have a better definition or find what I posted is in error or inaccurate.

419 posted on 11/28/2013 7:50:19 PM PST by redleghunter
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