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To: metmom; Iscool
Colossians 2:16-17 ... I now have the substance. I don't need the shadow.

The funny part is, Col 2 is the best defense there is for keeping the Torah - All one need do is change perspective - the narrative is being made to new converts to a sect of Judaism... Rather than converted to the Greek/Roman thing we have now... suddenly it means something entirely different, eh?

Romans 14:5-8

Instructions on fasting are supposed to tell me something?

Hebrews 10:1

We are in agreement. The Torah is not about making one 'perfect', nor has it ever been.

Galatians 5:22-23 But the fruit of the Spirit is love, joy, peace, patience, kindness, goodness, faithfulness, gentleness, self-control; against such things there is no law.

Here it is... Paul is always talking about living beyond the law - not without it... but beyond it.

Otherwise, I just descend into legalism.

It is legalism to keep the Torah? LOL!

Rom 7:7 - I would not have known sin except through the law.

Rom 3:20 - by the law is the knowledge of sin.

Rom 3:31 - Do we then make void the law through faith? Certainly not! On the contrary, we establish the law.

Rom 8:6-7 - For to be carnally minded is death, but to be spiritually minded is life and peace.
7 Because the carnal mind is enmity against Elohim; for it is not subject to the law of Elohim, nor indeed can be.

364 posted on 11/27/2013 10:27:02 AM PST by roamer_1 (Globalism is just socialism in a business suit.)
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To: roamer_1
The Council at Jerusalem said.....

Acts 15:22-29 Then it seemed good to the apostles and the elders, with the whole church, to choose men from among them and send them to Antioch with Paul and Barnabas. They sent Judas called Barsabbas, and Silas, leading men among the brothers, with the following letter:

“The brothers, both the apostles and the elders, to the brothers who are of the Gentiles in Antioch and Syria and Cilicia, greetings. Since we have heard that some persons have gone out from us and troubled you with words, unsettling your minds, although we gave them no instructions, it has seemed good to us, having come to one accord, to choose men and send them to you with our beloved Barnabas and Paul, men who have risked their lives for the name of our Lord Jesus Christ. We have therefore sent Judas and Silas, who themselves will tell you the same things by word of mouth. For it has seemed good to the Holy Spirit and to us to lay on you no greater burden than these requirements: that you abstain from what has been sacrificed to idols, and from blood, and from what has been strangled, and from sexual immorality. If you keep yourselves from these, you will do well. Farewell.”

And you want to put us back under the Law? Not thanks. I am freed from that.

Put yourself under bondage if you will. If God has convicted you about doing that for yourself, have at it.

But don't go around demanding that others follow you. That immediately crosses the line into legalism and then judging whether others are Christian or not because they don't meet your standards or expectations of what a Christian should live like.

365 posted on 11/27/2013 10:33:27 AM PST by metmom ( ...fixing our eyes on Jesus, the Author and Perfecter of our faith....)
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