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Questions for "Bible Christians" that they can't answer - Part 2
Catholic Convert ^ | October 27, 2013 | David Palm and Steve Ray

Posted on 10/27/2013 5:25:55 AM PDT by NYer

There are 38 questions + a few bonus questions. I have split them into two separate posts of 20 and 18 + bonus questions. In case you missed it, here is the link to Part 1. Are you ready?

21. Who in the Church had the authority to determine which books belonged in the New Testament canon and to make this decision binding on all Christians? If nobody has this authority, then can I remove or add books to the canon on my own authority?

22. Why do Protestant scholars recognize the early Church councils at Hippo and Carthage as the first instances in which the New Testament canon was officially ratified, but ignore the fact that those same councils ratified the Old Testament canon used by the Catholic Church today but abandoned by Protestants at the Reformation?

23. Why do Protestants follow postapostolic Jewish decisions on the boundaries of the Old Testament canon, rather than the decision of the Church founded by Jesus Christ?

24. How were the bishops at Hippo and Carthage able to determine the correct canon of Scripture, in spite of the fact that they believed all the distinctively Catholic doctrines such as the apostolic succession of bishops, the sacrifice of the Mass, Christ’s Real Presence in the Eucharist, baptismal regeneration, etc?

25. If Christianity is a “book religion,” how did it flourish during the first 1500 years of Church history when the vast majority of people were illiterate?

26. How could the Apostle Thomas establish the church in India that survives to this day (and is now in communion with the Catholic Church) without leaving them with one word of New Testament Scripture?

27. If sola Scriptura is so solid and biblically based, why has there never been a full treatise written in its defense since the phrase was coined in the Reformation?

28. If Jesus intended for Christianity to be exclusively a “religion of the book,” why did He wait 1400 years before showing somebody how to build a printing press?

29. If the early Church believed in sola Scriptura, why do the creeds of the early Church always say “we believe in the Holy Catholic Church,” and not “we believe in Holy Scripture”?

30. If the Bible is as clear as Martin Luther claimed, why was he the first one to interpret it the way he did and why was he frustrated at the end of his life that “there are now as many doctrines as there are heads”?

31. The time interval between the Resurrection and the establishment of the New Testament canon in AD 382 is roughly the same as the interval between the arrival of the Mayflower in America and the present day. Therefore, since the early Christians had no defined New Testament for almost four hundred years, how did they practice sola Scriptura?

32. If the Bible is the only foundation and basis of Christian truth, why does the Bible itself say that the Church is the pillar and foundation of truth (1 Tim. 3:15)?

33. Jesus said that the unity of Christians would be objective evidence to the world that He had been sent by God (John 17:20-23). How can the world see an invisible "unity" that exists only in the hearts of believers?

34. If the unity of Christians was meant to convince the world that Jesus was sent by God, what does the ever-increasing fragmentation of Protestantism say to the world?

35. Hebrews 13:17 says, "Obey your leaders and submit to their authority. They keep watch over you as men who must give an account. Obey them so that their work will be a joy, not a burden, for that would be of no advantage to you." What is the expiration date of this verse? When did it become okay not only to disobey the Church's leaders, but to rebel against them and set up rival churches?

36. The Koran explicitly claims divine inspiration, but the New Testament books do not. How do you know that the New Testament books are nevertheless inspired, but the Koran is not?

37. How does a Protestant know for sure what God thinks about moral issues such as abortion, masturbation, contraceptives, eugenics, euthanasia, etc.?

38. What is one to believe when one Protestant says infants should be baptized (e.g., Luther and Calvin) and another says it is wrong and unbiblical (e.g., Baptists and Evangelicals)?

A Few Bonus Questions

Where does the Bible . . .

. . . say God created the world/universe out of nothing?

. . . say salvation is attainable through faith alone?

. . . tell us how we know that the revelation of Jesus Christ ended with the death of the last Apostle?

. . . provide a list of the canonical books of the Old Testament?

. . . provide a list of the canonical books of the New Testament?

. . . explain the doctrine of the Trinity, or even use the word “Trinity”?

. . . tell us the name of the “beloved disciple”?

. . . inform us of the names of the authors of the Gospel of Matthew, Mark, Luke, or John?

. . . who wrote the Book of Acts?

. . . tell us the Holy Spirit is one of the three Persons of the Trinity?

. . . .tell us Jesus Christ was both fully God and fully man from the moment of conception (e.g. how do we know His Divinity wasn't infused later in His life?) and/or tells us Jesus Christ is One Person with two complete natures, human and Divine and not some other combination of the two natures (i.e., one or both being less than complete)?

. . . that the church should, or someday would be divided into competing and disagreeing denominations?

. . . that Protestants can have an invisible unity when Jesus expected a visible unity to be seen by the world (see John 17)?

. . . tell us Jesus Christ is of the same substance of Divinity as God the Father?


TOPICS: Apologetics; Catholic; History; Theology
KEYWORDS: antiprotestantrant; bible; biblequestions; christians; faith; romancatholicism; scripture; sectarianturmoil
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To: CynicalBear

It is the assembly that occupies the synagogue.

Deception never works!

Twisting the truth (like a wick) is the source of the word wicked.


1,401 posted on 11/13/2013 11:46:58 AM PST by editor-surveyor (Freepers: Not as smart as I'd hoped they'd be)
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To: CynicalBear

The Greek language makes no distinction between circus and church. The circle is what defines them.


1,402 posted on 11/13/2013 11:49:02 AM PST by editor-surveyor (Freepers: Not as smart as I'd hoped they'd be)
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To: editor-surveyor
By the looks of your posting history, the evil man has taken over your FR account and posts when you’re not looking.

Are you still trying to Google your Phantom Hebrew NT?

1,403 posted on 11/13/2013 11:49:18 AM PST by GarySpFc (We are saved by the precious blood of the God-man.)
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To: FourtySeven

Because that which is in the heart is reflected in how they live their life.


1,404 posted on 11/13/2013 11:52:01 AM PST by editor-surveyor (Freepers: Not as smart as I'd hoped they'd be)
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To: FourtySeven
Unity in proclaiming Him: 20 “I do not ask on behalf of these alone, but for those also who believe in Me through their word; 21 that they may all be one; even as You, Father, are in Me and I in You, that they also may be in Us, so that the world may believe that You sent Me.
1,405 posted on 11/13/2013 11:54:27 AM PST by redleghunter
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To: GarySpFc

Before I answer, which one are you? :o)


1,406 posted on 11/13/2013 12:19:45 PM PST by editor-surveyor (Freepers: Not as smart as I'd hoped they'd be)
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To: editor-surveyor
Before I answer, which one are you? :o)

If this argument is between you and me, then I will lose. However, if it's between you and The Lord Jesus Christ, then you are in trouble. I suspect you have never seen The Lord bring a man down, and take the words out of his mouth.

1,407 posted on 11/13/2013 12:31:29 PM PST by GarySpFc (We are saved by the precious blood of the God-man.)
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To: GarySpFc

There is absolutely no argument between me and Yeshua.

He sent me here.


1,408 posted on 11/13/2013 12:34:34 PM PST by editor-surveyor (Freepers: Not as smart as I'd hoped they'd be)
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To: redleghunter; GarySpFc

Actually I have often wondered if that wasn’t the intent to begin with.


1,409 posted on 11/13/2013 12:46:37 PM PST by CynicalBear (For I decided to know nothing among you except Jesus Christ)
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To: editor-surveyor
>> Deception never works!<<

Who do you think you are kidding? You’re not the only one following that deception of the New Testament having been written in Hebrew before Greek. And look at the numbers in other deceived religions. It’s clear that deception works.

1,410 posted on 11/13/2013 12:51:01 PM PST by CynicalBear (For I decided to know nothing among you except Jesus Christ)
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To: CynicalBear; redleghunter; GarySpFc

>> “Actually I have often wondered if that wasn’t the intent to begin with.” <<

.
Every now and then, CB, you say something really intuitive.


1,411 posted on 11/13/2013 12:54:33 PM PST by editor-surveyor (Freepers: Not as smart as I'd hoped they'd be)
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To: editor-surveyor; CynicalBear

I can find absolutely no evidence of transubstantiation established either in the OT or NT. Why I made the comment. The closest is John 6 but that entire dialogue was a similtude.


1,412 posted on 11/13/2013 12:59:11 PM PST by redleghunter
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To: CynicalBear

The evidence is strong throughout the NT for Hebrew as the original language.

Disregarding that evidence is your prerogative.

Horse - water - drink.


1,413 posted on 11/13/2013 1:00:10 PM PST by editor-surveyor (Freepers: Not as smart as I'd hoped they'd be)
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To: redleghunter; CynicalBear

There is absolutely nothing in John 6 suggesting any connection with the last supper.

The thing that struck me about CB’s remark was that there was no logical reason for men of the caliber of Paul or Peter to be trekking between Antioch and Jerusalem about an issue so well defined in Torah.

There had to be another reason that Yehova wanted that discussion highlighted in the word.


1,414 posted on 11/13/2013 1:06:03 PM PST by editor-surveyor (Freepers: Not as smart as I'd hoped they'd be)
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To: editor-surveyor; GarySpFc

To cast doubt on the inspired words of the New Testament? I think not.


1,415 posted on 11/13/2013 1:19:10 PM PST by CynicalBear (For I decided to know nothing among you except Jesus Christ)
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To: CynicalBear

The inspired words were in the originals, not necessarily in all of the copies and translations.

We have so many ‘Bible’ versions today that are in serious conflict that your statement is a polar bear floating on the ice in Acapulco.


1,416 posted on 11/13/2013 1:29:30 PM PST by editor-surveyor (Freepers: Not as smart as I'd hoped they'd be)
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To: editor-surveyor
There is absolutely no argument between me and Yeshua.

He sent me here.

Obviously, one of us either lying or totally deceived.

1,417 posted on 11/13/2013 1:31:50 PM PST by GarySpFc (We are saved by the precious blood of the God-man.)
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To: GarySpFc

Your deception will clear up eventually.

Nicolaitans just need more persuasion.


1,418 posted on 11/13/2013 1:40:51 PM PST by editor-surveyor (Freepers: Not as smart as I'd hoped they'd be)
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To: editor-surveyor; CynicalBear; redleghunter
To cast doubt on the inspired words of the New Testament? I think not.

True, but the ultimate goal is to create a different Christ. Men make an idol with their minds prior to making it with their hands. John showed us how to discern the spirit of antichrist.

1,419 posted on 11/13/2013 1:50:54 PM PST by GarySpFc (We are saved by the precious blood of the God-man.)
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To: editor-surveyor
>> The evidence is strong throughout the NT for Hebrew as the original language.<<

LOL That’s what Catholics say about so many of their false beliefs. Most every false religion in one way or another casts doubt on the infallibility of scripture as it has been preserved per God’s promise. Just as Satan quoted scripture to Christ with just a small change is also their tactic. Jehovah's Witnesses, Nazarenes, Mormons, Catholics and most others who teach that the scriptures as we have them are not to be trusted as written but they all know a better way.

1,420 posted on 11/13/2013 1:52:41 PM PST by CynicalBear (For I decided to know nothing among you except Jesus Christ)
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