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To: matthewrobertolson

You have left out any discussion of 1) admitting that we are all terrible sinners who must acknowledge our sins; 2) REPENT from those sins; 3) Ask Jesus Christ for forgiveness of our sins that is totally undeserved.

Now if I truly did all three of those things, then that should be a game changer for me. If I honestly and truthfully admitted sinfulness, repented from that sinfulness & asked for forgiveness from Jesus Christ, then why would I ever want to go out and SIN LIKE CRAZY consciously??? That would be a terrible disconnect, and I would likely not be saved at all if that were my behavior after my alleged salvation. I would want to do good deeds as a change in my heart as God wants me to do. And what I do will be different than what you do, so we can’t judge each other on our gifts.

Faith Alone means that I cannot attain God’s Grace through my “good deeds” - it is a gift from God, not something I can earn...because I never could. Roman Catholics and Mormons on the other hand have a moving target of salvation, which produces many troubled souls as well.


15 posted on 10/13/2013 12:31:41 PM PDT by Sioux-san
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To: Sioux-san
Roman Catholics ... on the other hand have a moving target of salvation, which produces many troubled souls as well.

I've actually heard that in order for a Catholic to go directly to heaven they have to be declared a "Saint" by the church. All other Catholics have to go through purgatory and are not sure; a works based Salvation for sure.

Whereas for the Protestant is is exactly the other way. Faith is a gift from God which one professes through confession before the church. Good works follow so the Lords words are confirmed "You shall know them by their fruits" but do not earn their salvation (which already has been done on the cross by the Lord who has given them faith).

For the Protestant, assurance of Salvation is based on their faith. For the Catholic, from what I understand, there is no assurance unless pronounced a saint which is very rare by the church.

71 posted on 10/13/2013 3:38:14 PM PDT by sr4402
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To: Sioux-san; matthewrobertolson
You have left out any discussion of 1) admitting that we are all terrible sinners who must acknowledge our sins; 2) REPENT from those sins; 3) Ask Jesus Christ for forgiveness of our sins that is totally undeserved.

Not only that, but the Hebrews 10 reference is way out of context. The "faith alone hater" should have kept reading. Here it is from Hebrews 10:

26 For if we go on sinning willfully after receiving the knowledge of the truth, there no longer remains a sacrifice for sins, 27 but a terrifying expectation of judgment and the fury of a fire which will consume the adversaries. 28 Anyone who has set aside the Law of Moses dies without mercy on the testimony of two or three witnesses. 29 How much severer punishment do you think he will deserve who has trampled under foot the Son of God, and has regarded as unclean the blood of the covenant by which he was sanctified, and has insulted the Spirit of grace? 30 For we know Him who said, “Vengeance is Mine, I will repay.” And again, “The Lord will judge His people.” 31 It is a terrifying thing to fall into the hands of the living God.

Yes indeed, the author of this article is clearly trampling here.

77 posted on 10/13/2013 4:48:20 PM PDT by redleghunter
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To: Sioux-san; matthewrobertolson
You have left out any discussion of 1) admitting that we are all terrible sinners who must acknowledge our sins; 2) REPENT from those sins; 3) Ask Jesus Christ for forgiveness of our sins that is totally undeserved.

Not only that, but the Hebrews 10 reference is way out of context. The "faith alone hater" should have kept reading. Here it is from Hebrews 10:

26 For if we go on sinning willfully after receiving the knowledge of the truth, there no longer remains a sacrifice for sins, 27 but a terrifying expectation of judgment and the fury of a fire which will consume the adversaries. 28 Anyone who has set aside the Law of Moses dies without mercy on the testimony of two or three witnesses. 29 How much severer punishment do you think he will deserve who has trampled under foot the Son of God, and has regarded as unclean the blood of the covenant by which he was sanctified, and has insulted the Spirit of grace? 30 For we know Him who said, “Vengeance is Mine, I will repay.” And again, “The Lord will judge His people.” 31 It is a terrifying thing to fall into the hands of the living God.

Yes indeed, the author of this article is clearly trampling here.

78 posted on 10/13/2013 4:48:25 PM PDT by redleghunter
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