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To: WVKayaker; CynicalBear

Is it me? Is it something I’m not saying correctly, or saying that is not correct?!? Help me out, here. I’m in a black hole...!!!


856 posted on 10/17/2013 3:48:59 PM PDT by smvoice (HELP! I'm trapped inside this body and I can't get out!)
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To: smvoice

See your pm


857 posted on 10/17/2013 3:50:49 PM PDT by CynicalBear (For I decided to know nothing among you except Jesus Christ)
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To: smvoice

God gave those in the upper room the ability to speak in other tongues so that they could preach in the language that would be understood by their audience. Those who would try to impress with using language other than that understood by the people they a speaking to are contrary to that concept of the upper room gift given by the Holy Spirit. Those who think for some reason that using some language other than that spoken by the people they are speaking to is somehow more holy or something are more akin to those people who were building the tower of Babel than those in the upper room. Shack the dust.


859 posted on 10/17/2013 3:58:40 PM PDT by CynicalBear (For I decided to know nothing among you except Jesus Christ)
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To: smvoice
No,It is not you. You're not in a black hole. Some people are so entrenched in dogma and personal beliefs that they cannot see the forest for the trees. What you have given is absolutely correct, but the argument back to you is based on obedience to the law.

We know that the work of Christ is complete in our lives, and that we are no longer under the law. I am deliberately not pinging the other side because frankly I don't care what they have to say. It does not line up with Scripture and only serves to confuse.

God looks on us as sinners, but provides a protection from that sin. It is the blood of Jesus, and nothing more we can do but believe. He is just and the justifier. I liken it to the morton girl. Our faith is the umbrella and all God sees is that blood pouring down! We can walk unscathed by the penalty of sin...

Galatians 2: 15 “We who are Jews by birth and not sinful Gentiles 16 know that a person is not justified by the works of the law, but by faith in Jesus Christ. So we, too, have put our faith in Christ Jesus that we may be justified by faith in Christ and not by the works of the law, because by the works of the law no one will be justified.

17 “But if, in seeking to be justified in Christ, we Jews find ourselves also among the sinners, doesn’t that mean that Christ promotes sin? Absolutely not! 18 If I rebuild what I destroyed, then I really would be a lawbreaker.

19 “For through the law I died to the law so that I might live for God. 20 I have been crucified with Christ and I no longer live, but Christ lives in me. The life I now live in the body, I live by faith in the Son of God, who loved me and gave himself for me. 21 I do not set aside the grace of God, for if righteousness could be gained through the law, Christ died for nothing!”


860 posted on 10/17/2013 3:59:57 PM PDT by WVKayaker ("The only place that the left hasn't placed the blame is on their agenda..." -Sarah Palin)
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