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To: smvoice
No,It is not you. You're not in a black hole. Some people are so entrenched in dogma and personal beliefs that they cannot see the forest for the trees. What you have given is absolutely correct, but the argument back to you is based on obedience to the law.

We know that the work of Christ is complete in our lives, and that we are no longer under the law. I am deliberately not pinging the other side because frankly I don't care what they have to say. It does not line up with Scripture and only serves to confuse.

God looks on us as sinners, but provides a protection from that sin. It is the blood of Jesus, and nothing more we can do but believe. He is just and the justifier. I liken it to the morton girl. Our faith is the umbrella and all God sees is that blood pouring down! We can walk unscathed by the penalty of sin...

Galatians 2: 15 “We who are Jews by birth and not sinful Gentiles 16 know that a person is not justified by the works of the law, but by faith in Jesus Christ. So we, too, have put our faith in Christ Jesus that we may be justified by faith in Christ and not by the works of the law, because by the works of the law no one will be justified.

17 “But if, in seeking to be justified in Christ, we Jews find ourselves also among the sinners, doesn’t that mean that Christ promotes sin? Absolutely not! 18 If I rebuild what I destroyed, then I really would be a lawbreaker.

19 “For through the law I died to the law so that I might live for God. 20 I have been crucified with Christ and I no longer live, but Christ lives in me. The life I now live in the body, I live by faith in the Son of God, who loved me and gave himself for me. 21 I do not set aside the grace of God, for if righteousness could be gained through the law, Christ died for nothing!”


860 posted on 10/17/2013 3:59:57 PM PDT by WVKayaker ("The only place that the left hasn't placed the blame is on their agenda..." -Sarah Palin)
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To: WVKayaker

Excellent!


862 posted on 10/17/2013 4:02:20 PM PDT by CynicalBear (For I decided to know nothing among you except Jesus Christ)
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To: WVKayaker; CynicalBear
Thank you WVKayaker. What I was ATTEMPTING to do was untangle everything by taking it back to its very beginning and working forward to TODAY. And with that, showing just how Merciful and Gracious God was when He removed that middle wall of partition so that Gentiles could be saved APART from Israel. Actually, to be saved, not BECAUSE of Israel, but DESPITE Israel's failure to accept Messiah. Ephesians tells us where we were before that wall of partition was removed. WHY do some people WANT to be back there, on either side of it now? I don't get it, but fortunately, I don't have to. God has SEEN to that.

Thanks again and God Bless, smvoice

864 posted on 10/17/2013 4:09:26 PM PDT by smvoice (HELP! I'm trapped inside this body and I can't get out!)
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To: WVKayaker
Galatians 2:20-21 I have been crucified with Christ and I no longer live, but Christ lives in me. The life I now live in the body, I live by faith in the Son of God, who loved me and gave himself for me. I do not set aside the grace of God, for if righteousness could be gained through the law, Christ died for nothing!”

Some of my favorite verses in the Bible...

Praise God!

873 posted on 10/18/2013 12:19:56 AM PDT by metmom ( ...fixing our eyes on Jesus, the Author and Perfecter of faith....)
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To: WVKayaker

Amen!


943 posted on 10/21/2013 8:41:59 PM PDT by caww
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