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Present Tribulation vs. Future Tribulation
bibleprophecyblog.com ^ | July 6, 2011 | Dr. Thomas Ice

Posted on 10/04/2013 2:11:50 PM PDT by jodyel

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To: editor-surveyor; CynicalBear; roamer_1; WVKayaker

No, I’m NOT playing a game, editor. Nor do I want to turn myself in tonight for making a post personal. If you want to talk about Bible Scripture, post the one or more you’re specifically referring to. And I can already tell you that with your last post, you are completely wrong. There is a GREAT DIFFERENCE between that which was “SPOKEN by the mouths of all [God’s] holy prophets SINCE the world began”, and that which was “KEPT SECRET SINCE the world began.” ONE is the subject of PROPHECY. The OTHER is the subject of the MYSTERY. They are NOT all jumbled together into Abraham. Now, read some Scripture to follow along, or don’t post to me concerning this. I’m trying to get us to the beginning, the same page here.


741 posted on 10/15/2013 3:41:22 PM PDT by smvoice (HELP! I'm trapped inside this body and I can't get out!)
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To: smvoice; metmom
Actually vaticanus mons mean prophetic mount doesn’t it? The Vatican and Vatican City is actually built over the place where the temple of the goddess Cybele.

The Idaean Mother of the Gods (Cybele) was brought from Pessinus, Phrygia to Rome per a prophesy of the pagan oracles that Rome would fall unless they did. Rome was at the time the center of paganism. It is believed that part of St. Peters was designed after that temple to Cybele. To understand the pagan history of Rome is to understand the beginnings of the RCC.

742 posted on 10/15/2013 4:04:45 PM PDT by CynicalBear (For I decided to know nothing among you except Jesus Christ)
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To: metmom; smvoice; editor-surveyor; CynicalBear; roamer_1

This one makes as much sense...

*************

3:1 Ow-nay e-thay erpent-say as-way ore-may ubtil-say an-thay
any-ay east-bay of-ay e-thay ield-fay ich-whay e-thay ORD-Lay Od-
gay ad-hay ade-may. And-ay e-hay aid-say unto-ay e-thay oman-
way, Ea-yay, ath-hay Od-gay aid-say, E-yay all-shay ot-nay eat-ay
of-ay every-ay ee-tray of-ay e-thay arden-gay?
3:2 And-ay e-thay oman-way aid-say unto-ay e-thay erpent-say, E-
way ay-may eat-ay of-ay e-thay uit-fray of-ay e-thay ees-tray of-
ay e-thay arden-gay:
3:3 Ut-bay of-ay e-thay uit-fray of-ay e-thay ee-tray ich-whay is-
ay in-ay e-thay idst-may of-ay e-thay arden-gay, Od-gay ath-hay
aid-say, E-yay all-shay ot-nay eat-ay of-ay it-ay, either-nay all-
shay e-yay ouch-tay it-ay, est-lay e-yay ie-day.
3:4 And-ay e-thay erpent-say aid-say unto-ay e-thay oman-way, E-
yay all-shay ot-nay urely-say ie-day:
3:5 Or-fay Od-gay oth-day ow-knay at-thay in-ay e-thay ay-day e-
yay eat-ay ereof-thay, en-thay our-yay eyes-ay all-shay e-bay
opened-ay, and-ay e-yay all-shay e-bay as-ay ods-gay, owing-knay
ood-gay and-ay evil-ay.
3:6 And-ay en-whay e-thay oman-way aw-say at-thay e-thay ee-
tray as-way ood-gay or-fay ood-fay, and-ay at-thay it-ay as-way
easant-play o-tay e-thay eyes-ay, and-ay a-ay ee-tray o-tay e-bay
esired-day o-tay ake-may one-ay ise-way, e-shay ook-tay of-ay e-
thay uit-fray ereof-thay, and-ay id-day eat-ay, and-ay ave-gay also-
ay unto-ay er-hay usband-hay ith-way er-hay; and-ay e-hay id-day
eat-ay.
3:7 And-ay e-thay eyes-ay of-ay em-thay oth-bay ere-way opened-
ay, and-ay ey-thay ew-knay at-thay ey-thay ere-way aked-nay; and-
ay ey-thay ewed-say ig-fay eaves-lay ogether-tay, and-ay ade-may
emselves-thay aprons-ay.
3:8 And-ay ey-thay eard-hay e-thay oice-vay of-ay e-thay ORD-Lay
Od-gay alking-way in-ay e-thay arden-gay in-ay e-thay ool-cay of-
ay e-thay ay-day: and-ay Adam-ay and-ay is-hay ife-way id-hay
emselves-thay om-fray e-thay esence-pray of-ay e-thay ORD-Lay
Od-gay amongst-ay e-thay ees-tray of-ay e-thay arden-gay.
3:9 And-ay e-thay ORD-Lay Od-gay alled-cay unto-ay Adam-ay, and-
ay aid-say unto-ay im-hay, Ere-whay art-ay ou-thay?
3:10 And-ay e-hay aid-say, I-ay eard-hay y-thay oice-vay in-ay e-
thay arden-gay, and-ay I-ay as-way afraid-ay, ecause-bay I-ay as-
way aked-nay; and-ay I-ay id-hay yself-may.
3:11 And-ay e-hay aid-say, O-whay old-tay ee-thay at-thay ou-thay
ast-way aked-nay? Ast-hay ou-thay eaten-ay of-ay e-thay ee-tray,
ereof-whay I-ay ommanded-cay ee-thay at-thay ou-thay ouldest-
shay ot-nay eat-ay?
3:12 And-ay e-thay an-may aid-say, E-thay oman-way om-whay ou-
thay avest-gay o-tay e-bay ith-way e-may, e-shay ave-gay e-may
of-ay e-thay ee-tray, and-ay I-ay id-day eat-ay.
3:13 And-ay e-thay ORD-Lay Od-gay aid-say unto-ay e-thay oman-
way, At-whay is-ay is-thay at-thay ou-thay ast-hay one-day? And-
ay e-thay oman-way aid-say, E-thay erpent-say eguiled-bay e-may,
and-ay I-ay id-day eat-ay.
3:14 And-ay e-thay ORD-Lay Od-gay aid-say unto-ay e-thay erpent-
say, Ecause-bay ou-thay ast-hay one-day is-thay, ou-thay art-ay
ursed-cay above-ay all-ay attle-cay, and-ay above-ay every-ay
east-bay of-ay e-thay ield-fay; upon-ay y-thay elly-bay alt-shay
ou-thay o-gay, and-ay ust-day alt-shay ou-thay eat-ay all-ay e-thay
ays-day of-ay y-thay ife-lay:
3:15 And-ay I-ay ill-way ut-pay enmity-ay etween-bay ee-thay
and-ay e-thay oman-way, and-ay etween-bay y-thay eed-say and-ay
er-hay eed-say; it-ay all-shay uise-bray y-thay ead-hay, and-ay ou-
thay alt-shay uise-bray is-hay eel-hay.
3:16 Unto-ay e-thay oman-way e-hay aid-say, I-ay ill-way eatly-
gray ultiply-may y-thay orrow-say and-ay y-thay onception-cay; in-
ay orrow-say ou-thay alt-shay ing-bray orth-fay ildren-chay; and-ay
y-thay esire-day all-shay e-bay o-tay y-thay usband-hay, and-ay e-
hay all-shay ule-ray over-ay ee-thay.
3:17 And-ay unto-ay Adam-ay e-hay aid-say, Ecause-bay ou-thay
ast-hay earkened-hay unto-ay e-thay oice-vay of-ay y-thay ife-way,
and-ay ast-hay eaten-ay of-ay e-thay ee-tray, of-ay ich-whay I-ay
ommanded-cay ee-thay, aying-say, Ou-thay alt-shay ot-nay eat-ay
of-ay it-ay: ursed-cay is-ay e-thay ound-gray or-fay y-thay ake-
say; in-ay orrow-say alt-shay ou-thay eat-ay of-ay it-ay all-ay e-
thay ays-day of-ay y-thay ife-lay;
3:18 Orns-thay also-ay and-ay istles-thay all-shay it-ay ing-bray
orth-fay o-tay ee-thay; and-ay ou-thay alt-shay eat-ay e-thay erb-
hay of-ay e-thay ield-fay;
3:19 In-ay e-thay eat-sway of-ay y-thay ace-fay alt-shay ou-thay
eat-ay ead-bray, ill-tay ou-thay eturn-ray unto-ay e-thay ound-
gray; or-fay out-ay of-ay it-ay ast-way ou-thay aken-tay: or-fay
ust-day ou-thay art-ay, and-ay unto-ay ust-day alt-shay ou-thay
eturn-ray.
3:20 And-ay Adam-ay alled-cay is-hay ife’s-way ame-nay Eve-ay;
ecause-bay e-shay as-way e-thay other-may of-ay all-ay iving-lay.
3:21 Unto-ay Adam-ay also-ay and-ay o-tay is-hay ife-way id-day
e-thay ORD-Lay Od-gay ake-may oats-cay of-ay ins-skay, and-ay
othed-clay em-thay. ...


743 posted on 10/15/2013 4:14:54 PM PDT by WVKayaker ("The only place that the left hasn't placed the blame is on their agenda..." -Sarah Palin)
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To: CynicalBear
Did you know this? I've never heard about it. I wonder if the “faithful” know the Vatican sits atop a pagan graveyard..In this program, they went under the Vatican, to show some of the bones in the graveyard, saying that no one but the highest order of Catholicism are permitted to go to this place. Gee, I wonder why...and WE just THINK that there is a spirit of unclean demon spirits there...Uh-huh..
744 posted on 10/15/2013 4:30:37 PM PDT by smvoice (HELP! I'm trapped inside this body and I can't get out!)
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To: smvoice

The hill the Vatican sits on was a burial ground for higher ups in the pagan city. If you read the pagan history of the “seven hills” you can begin to understand the Revelation references. “The city that sits on seven hills”.


745 posted on 10/15/2013 4:33:36 PM PDT by CynicalBear (For I decided to know nothing among you except Jesus Christ)
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To: CynicalBear

It ALL makes sense now. Sadly. The prince of the power of the air resting comfortably there, knowing he is safe and will never be cast out..


746 posted on 10/15/2013 4:35:59 PM PDT by smvoice (HELP! I'm trapped inside this body and I can't get out!)
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To: smvoice

They are doing much of his work for him. Another pagan enters in there also and that’s Simon Magus. Simon Magus more than Simon Peter is where the RCC started, many of the early Romans didn’t distinguish the difference and neither has the RCC.


747 posted on 10/15/2013 4:42:00 PM PDT by CynicalBear (For I decided to know nothing among you except Jesus Christ)
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To: CynicalBear

I’m going to google him right now. I’ll be back...


748 posted on 10/15/2013 4:45:33 PM PDT by smvoice (HELP! I'm trapped inside this body and I can't get out!)
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To: smvoice

Here is a site you may find interesting.

http://hope-of-israel.org/magus.html


749 posted on 10/15/2013 4:51:52 PM PDT by CynicalBear (For I decided to know nothing among you except Jesus Christ)
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To: CynicalBear
Hmmm...listen to this from my study Bible: Ancient ecclesiastical writers say that Simon claimed he was the Father who gave the law to Moses; that he came in the reign of Tiberias in the person as the Son; that he descended upon the disciples at Pentecost in flames of fire; that he was the Messiah, the Paraclete, and Jupiter; and THAT THE WOMAN WHO ACCOMPANIED HIM called Helena was Minerva, or the first intelligence.

I'm betting that woman can be traced, too...

750 posted on 10/15/2013 4:53:37 PM PDT by smvoice (HELP! I'm trapped inside this body and I can't get out!)
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To: smvoice; CynicalBear; roamer_1; WVKayaker

What do you think the “mystery” is?

There always have been Gentiles, so that can’t be it.

Gosh, can it be that the seed of Abraham is somehow hiding there?


751 posted on 10/15/2013 4:54:34 PM PDT by editor-surveyor (Freepers: Not as smart as I'd hoped they'd be)
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To: editor-surveyor; smvoice; roamer_1; WVKayaker

Still no scripture to support your view? Irrelevant without scripture.


752 posted on 10/15/2013 4:57:52 PM PDT by CynicalBear (For I decided to know nothing among you except Jesus Christ)
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To: editor-surveyor; CynicalBear; WVKayaker

Yep. Opinion. Still dead. No Scripture.


753 posted on 10/15/2013 5:03:53 PM PDT by smvoice (HELP! I'm trapped inside this body and I can't get out!)
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To: CynicalBear
Minerva: Associated with the healing power of water.

The dove staff of the Illumaniti is referred to as the "virge", meaning Virgin and is an occult reference to Minerva.

The Roman Goddess Minerva is based on the Greek Athena, who in turn is based on earlier Egyptian goddesses such as Isis and Neith.

Minerva was "Immaculately Conceived".

Minerva is known as the "Ever-Virginal Goddess".

From Google search: Minerva. Various sites.

But I'm sure it's just coincidental. Those crazy Catholics! ALWAYS wanting to joke around and make people laugh...

754 posted on 10/15/2013 5:30:42 PM PDT by smvoice (HELP! I'm trapped inside this body and I can't get out!)
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To: smvoice

Eye opening isn’t it?


755 posted on 10/15/2013 5:32:32 PM PDT by CynicalBear (For I decided to know nothing among you except Jesus Christ)
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To: CynicalBear
I'LL SAY. AND Proof beyond a reasonable doubt. CONFIRMED.

It's a duck.

756 posted on 10/15/2013 5:35:12 PM PDT by smvoice (HELP! I'm trapped inside this body and I can't get out!)
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To: CynicalBear; smvoice

>> “They are doing much of his work for him. Another pagan enters in there also and that’s Simon Magus. Simon Magus more than Simon Peter is where the RCC started, many of the early Romans didn’t distinguish the difference and neither has the RCC.” <<

.
Absolute fact!

He was known as Shimon, and he had a reputation as a sorcerer.


757 posted on 10/15/2013 6:22:39 PM PDT by editor-surveyor (Freepers: Not as smart as I'd hoped they'd be)
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To: editor-surveyor; CynicalBear
FINALLY, editor, you have said something we can ALL agree on here! I'm so proud of you!

:)

758 posted on 10/15/2013 6:26:10 PM PDT by smvoice (HELP! I'm trapped inside this body and I can't get out!)
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To: smvoice; editor-surveyor; CynicalBear
Group hug...


759 posted on 10/15/2013 7:07:35 PM PDT by WVKayaker ("The only place that the left hasn't placed the blame is on their agenda..." -Sarah Palin)
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To: WVKayaker

aawww!


760 posted on 10/15/2013 7:09:19 PM PDT by mitch5501 ("make your calling and election sure: for if ye do these things ye shall never fall")
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