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Do I go to mass tomorrow, and listen to a homily advocating amnesty for illegal immigrants? (Vanity)

Posted on 09/07/2013 3:59:35 PM PDT by steelhead_trout

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To: ansel12

I think I love him :)


201 posted on 09/07/2013 8:41:04 PM PDT by fatima (Free Hugs Today :))
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To: savagesusie

thanks for posting


202 posted on 09/07/2013 9:54:16 PM PDT by campaignPete R-CT (we're the Beatniks now)
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To: sheana; Arthur McGowan
"Have a hard time wrapping my mind around that."

God is powerful. The personalities are incidental.

The scandal of Magdalene ... some wonder why belong to a Church which has people like that! Those like you who live the Gospel ... you can understand it.

The Scandal of Judas ... more difficult ... how could anyone belong to a Church that had Judas as one of the original chosen 12? A mystery ... yet he was not expelled. There have always been Judases ... It must be pride that thinks I deserve better and I should get out of a church full of Judases. It's a cross.

There are those with the theology to explain it better than I.
203 posted on 09/07/2013 10:01:26 PM PDT by campaignPete R-CT (we're the Beatniks now)
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To: Zionist Conspirator

I think you are not telling the truth and have no idea of what you are talking about Book of Jonah.


204 posted on 09/08/2013 2:46:48 AM PDT by Ann Archy (Abortion......the Human Sacrifice to the god of Convenience.)
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To: fatima
Have you ever stood outside an abortion chamber and beg for the life of a child?If Father read the letter would you have stood up and said “Jobs for Americans First?

Yes to the first. No to the second.

205 posted on 09/08/2013 3:48:41 AM PDT by old and tired
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To: Jvette
As you can see I am pulled both ways. As a conservative, I want our borders protected from illegal entry by anyone. As a Christian, I want to care for my brothers and sisters in Christ. There is no easy answer for me.

I honestly think most practicing Catholics feel that way. However, the Church needs to stay out of politics. If they want to tell us to welcome the stranger, feed the hungry, etc. I'm fine with that. However, I draw the line on them trying to set legal policy. Look where it's gotten us - it's moved what is a religious obligation, i.e. charity, into the hands of the government. It's sick. We're a socialist nation now and members of our Church had a lot to do with that.

206 posted on 09/08/2013 3:53:24 AM PDT by old and tired
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To: Salvation
It didn’t happen at my church tonight. The homily was on the Gospel.

Nor ours as well. I hope someone takes a count - I'll bet it's not as many as the media has been drumming up. And I think the homily could've been preached at my parish with very little repercussions in the collection plate, i.e. most of my parish is too rich and too well employed to care on a personal level about immigration laws and most probably have a Catholic sense of welcoming the strangers in our midst. Yet our homily was on the letter to Philemon in the second reading. Touched on the Gospel a little bit.

207 posted on 09/08/2013 4:02:45 AM PDT by old and tired
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To: steelhead_trout

The Harrisburg diocese has a lovely Latin Mass. It is doubtful that those priests will be talking about illegal aliens.

Here is the link to the church:

http://www.hbglatinmass.com/

Regards,


208 posted on 09/08/2013 4:11:55 AM PDT by VermiciousKnid (Sic narro nos totus!)
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To: steelhead_trout

Another reason why I finally opted to go non-denominational. Religion ties everything said to a whole mass of churches, etc. In non-denominational, instead of worrying about religiosity, sacraments, rites (we do Baptism as a open declaration and a Lord’s Supper/Communion where we follow His instructions and use it as a remembrance instead of a miracle of the transformation of food into Him - the holiness is from a sharing of the remembrance, not from some mystical event). The greatest part of the message is Jesus’ sacrifice and the Love of Him, the Father, and the Holy Spirit - it includes the Bible, cover-to-cover, and concentrates on the Word vs. religion. If a pastor goes rogue, there are plenty of other places to worship, but I’d hazard that there is a greater percentage of conservative, God-fearing, moralistic (pro-life, anti-homo “marriage”) in nondenominational churches than in any other religious sect of Christianity.


209 posted on 09/08/2013 4:16:26 AM PDT by trebb (Where in the the hell has my country gone?)
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To: James C. Bennett
Religion is politics, politics is religion.

Not according to the Bible. The Master said, "My Kingdom is not of this world."

Politics married with religion is 'the social gospel,' which is not the Gospel of Christ at all. It is a false gospel, and the father of it is the Devil, IMHO.

210 posted on 09/08/2013 6:00:14 AM PDT by imardmd1 (Fiat Lux)
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To: old and tired

:)I was on a roll last night.Guess I’m just angry.I am praying a rosary for the Bishops today-Our Lady’s Birthday.They did not read the letter at Mass today here.


211 posted on 09/08/2013 7:26:08 AM PDT by fatima (Free Hugs Today :))
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To: A.A. Cunningham

No anti Catholic sentiments meant. Setting aside the religious claims by the Catholics and Protestants and looking at church support for illegal aliens from an historical perspective. Christian support for illegals is Cosmopolitanism which runs rampant as a culture dies. Cosmopolitanism is antithetical to love of the the Nation State. American protestants ONCE differed in that they loved our Nation. Today they too are becoming “Universal” and belong “to the world.” Again it is historical with a number of factors involved and time and space does not allow a complete discussion.


212 posted on 09/08/2013 7:59:45 AM PDT by AEMILIUS PAULUS (It is a shame that when these people give a riot)
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To: steelhead_trout

Went to my usual TLM here on Long Island, and Father said not a single word about illegal aliens.

Thought you might be interested.

Best regards,


213 posted on 09/08/2013 8:16:28 AM PDT by VermiciousKnid (Sic narro nos totus!)
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To: steelhead_trout

No.


214 posted on 09/08/2013 9:54:22 AM PDT by ataDude (Its like 1933, mixed with the Carter 70s, plus the books 1984 and Animal Farm, all at the same time.)
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To: VermiciousKnid

Although I am an energetic promoter of the Latin Mass I have to admit that a few years ago, at a time when unlawful immigration was in the news also, one homily did include a few words of “the immigrants are mostly good people”, etc (which may well be true). Nothing since, though.


215 posted on 09/08/2013 10:02:51 AM PDT by steve86 (Some things aren't really true but you wouldn't be half surprised if they were.)
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To: All

Thanks for your advice and guidance. I went to mass today, and the homily was very nice. Related directly to the Gospel passage, nothing about immigration, amnesty etc. Next time, I won’t listen to silly, sensationalist journalism, particularly where religion is concerned.


216 posted on 09/08/2013 10:40:27 AM PDT by steelhead_trout (MYOB)
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To: steelhead_trout

Dear Steelhead, Thank you for your report. I read through the chain to see if you made it to mass and reported on what was said.

I have learned not trust to the generally secular, if not ‘anti-Christina’ media’s headlines.


217 posted on 09/08/2013 11:48:23 AM PDT by GreyFriar (Spearhead - 3rd Armored Division 75-78 & 83-87)
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To: steelhead_trout
Well, our "product of the 70s" priest was preaching the homily today.

Not Word One on immigration - preached on the Gospel for the day, and King Solomon, and a couple of other interesting topics about discerning God's will and acting on it.

Good homily.

218 posted on 09/08/2013 12:49:05 PM PDT by AnAmericanMother (Ecce Crucem Domini, fugite partes adversae. Vicit Leo de Tribu Iuda, Radix David, Alleluia!)
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To: AnAmericanMother

We didn’t hear a peep about immigration—illegal or otherwise— in our priest’s homily today. He preached right from the Gospel, like he always does. And I live in Arizona and our parish has a HUGE Spanish-speaking population.


219 posted on 09/08/2013 12:50:17 PM PDT by fidelis (Zonie and USAF Cold Warrior)
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To: steelhead_trout

I would not go either but I would tell them why.


220 posted on 09/08/2013 12:50:21 PM PDT by bmwcyle (People who do not study history are destine to believe really ignorant statements.)
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