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To: Sopater

You said, “Sin is also “to incur guilt, incur penalty””

First, I’m not fan of Osteen and believe he teaches error but I don’t gather from what I’ve read that he’s a “universalist”. When you take issue with Osteen’s definition of sin as to “miss the mark” that’s really unwarranted. Sin is disobedience to God in rebellion and even with the most sincere person it really has to do with “missing the mark”. Thank God for his grace for such sin. But sin is not “to incur guilt, incur penalty”. These are the consequences to sin, not what sin is. Respectfully. Discipler


130 posted on 01/22/2014 5:06:26 AM PST by discipler (How's that 'hope and change' working for 'ya? - RL)
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To: discipler

He denied Jesus is the only way. Isn’t that universalism?


132 posted on 01/22/2014 5:18:36 AM PST by Gamecock (Celebrating 20,000 posts of dubious quality.)
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To: discipler
When you take issue with Osteen’s definition of sin as to “miss the mark” that’s really unwarranted. Sin is disobedience to God in rebellion and even with the most sincere person it really has to do with “missing the mark”.

It is only "missing the mark" for those who are aiming to obey God. Repentance means to "turn around" and go the other way. Sin is rebellion against God, as you stated. It's not seeking to please God and simply "missing the mark".
133 posted on 01/22/2014 10:12:22 AM PST by Sopater (Is it not lawful for me to do what I will with mine own? - Matthew 20:15a)
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